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[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago

In CA, my rent is close to $2k a month, but I can walk to basically everything I need to. In MI, my rent is $650 a month, but the closest coffee shop is miles away.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

If your car gets 30 mpg, then you could drive 30 miles for less than $5 probably. It would be more frugal to drive and have the cheaper cost of living.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

only because it's artificially constructed to be like that for the benefit of the car-oil industrial complex

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Everything humans build is artificially constructed

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

specifically, in this case, euclidean zoning, FAR limits, skewed investment, unsafe intersections, oil subsidies, etc.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No, the roads were constructed so that people could travel from one place to another more easily. They existed before cars did, and people traveled on these old roads with horses and carriages. Many of the roads around where I live (in an area the government designates as rural) have historical markers that describe their history going back to the days of Colonial times.

[-] Boxtifer@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah if it's all about money then go that route. You are also forgetting the cost of a car itself needed there which is a ton more than just the $5 cost of gas.

Otherwise walking gets you exercise which is better for your health in the long run and in general; the cafe gives a sense of a "third space" and community and the lack of a car is a ton better for both the environment and traffic which also affects everyone's general health.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

That is only true if you prefer money over the environmental damage you do.

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

The minuscule amount of pollution that my fuel-efficient car produces is completely insignificant in the grand scale of planet Earth. So yes I do prefer having money to live on than worrying about that.

You can guilt trip me about my car after you succeed in getting millionaires to ground their private jets and when mega-corporations stop massively polluting everything around the world.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

Sure, and throwing a can out of the window on a highway is also insignificant >.>

You have the exact same mentality as those millionaires you complain about.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

I don't have a license which is why I'm not living in MI.

[-] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

You know, it's possible to live the walkable life in Michigan.

Right?

[-] nuachtan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Live in MI. I walk a ton, but the closest dedicated coffee shop (Bigby) is 1.5 miles from me. There are, however, two restaurants that will also serve me coffee within .125 miles.

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