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submitted 11 months ago by Fissionami@lemmygrad.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

Mitch McConell says the quiet part out loud.

Exact full quote from CNN:

“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/4085063

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[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago

To all the people not wanting to extend the proxy war against the war crime committing Russians: what do you expect will happen if you stop funding Ukraine defense against war crimes? You think Russians just go home? You think China and North Korea don't look around at adjacent territories licking their lips? Do you understand what deterrence means?

Before you respond like a tankie that America is an imperialist shithole, America is not the one (this time) committing war crimes, RUSSIA is.

[-] SootyChimney@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I wouldn't even mind extending the war so much if there was any attempt to have some good faith peace negotiations to at least entertain a chance at peace??? Russia has always been up for peace talks, Ukraine/the West has not. In fact I am still often shouted down if I so much as say that all sides should be discussing the possibility of peace.

I agree Russia bad and should not be doing an awful invasion, but there is also a much wider context to their invasion that involves Ukraine refusing to give its eastern regions a vote on their own future and bombing civilians for 8 years. This war was very far from inevitable, even without giving Russia any major concessions.

[-] KerPop47@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Russia can unilaterally end the war by leaving Ukrainian territory. They choose to extend the war because they want land and resources.

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And have NATO 500 miles from Moscow and all of Russia's industry? That would be suicidal, Everyone remembers Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya.

Also the reason the west is extending the war is because they too want land and resources. This is a war between two bourgeois dictatorships

[-] ToxicDivinity@hexbear.net 0 points 11 months ago

Are you saying that Russia should leave the Donbas region and leave those people to be subjugated by the undemocratic Ukrainian gov that's been indiscriminately murdering them for 8 years???

Hate Russia if you want but why do you hate the people of Donbas?

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