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White Evangelicals Must Lose in November (johnpavlovitz.substack.com)
submitted 6 days ago by spaceghoti@lemmy.one to c/atheism@lemmy.ml

From a former pastor who knows what the insiders talk about: a warning we would be foolish to ignore.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 days ago

To third-party voters: I fully believe in votes of conscience and there will be plenty of time for you to create an alternative to the system we currently have in place—but now isn't that time. A protest vote now isn't a protest, it's reckless and wasteful and it will cost you any future opportunity you're hoping for. You will lose the voice you have.

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[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

If you are voting for genocide with "lesser evil" logic then you have already lost any voice worth having.

There is a reason these cowards can't even describe the basic facts with explicit terms. They know what it means to say, "vote for a gemocider" so they hem and has and play with euphemisms.

But you don't need to be convinced by these shills. You can do better than support genocide.

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org -1 points 6 days ago

Can't vote Democrat because support of Israel. That means you also can't support Republicans, because they support the full extent of the genocide even more with Trump telling Israel to finish the job. And that means you can't support (most) 3rd party candidates, because the Green Party is primarily funded by Republican donors, and the candidates themselves have investments that go against everything the Green Party is supposed to stand for.

Where does that leave us? You say it's hemming and hawing with euphemisms. Right now, all candidates lead down the same foreign affairs path. Not all candidates lead down the same road on policies regarding education, corporate regulations, federal health regulations. All things that were decimated under Trump's presidency. Not to mention, the sheer amount of hate crime that conservatives feel more comfortable doing with Republican presidents in office, leading to people of color and queer politicians stepping down from fear of their livelihood.

But I guess Trump saying he wants to deport protestors and moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, on top of everything else his administration did to the U.S. is completely reasonable.

[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 1 points 6 days ago

Nevermind that. He said he wanted to call out the military on anyone who didn't vote for him on live television. Why isn't the NYT reporting on that?

Oh, it's just Trump!

At this point, I'm fairly convinced that the people trying to argue that we shouldn't support Democrats because of a single issue, no matter how important that issue, are Russian assets.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

What's the single issue? Why can't you describe it?

You admit your complicity in genocide by these behaviors. You know it is shameful.

[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 0 points 6 days ago

Your trolling is tiresome. I'm done pretending you're discussing anything with any integrity.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Please engage in good faith. I have challenged you to name the genocide what it is and explain the evasive. You should meet that challenge, not invent reasons to dismiss me.

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