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New Footage Shows Tesla On Autopilot Crashing Into Police Car After Alerting Driver 150 Times::Six officers who were injured in the crash are suing Tesla despite the fact that the driver was allegedly impaired

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[-] hoodlem@hoodlem.me 170 points 1 year ago

In fact, by the time the crash happens, it’s alerted the driver to pay more attention no less than 150 times over the course of about 45 minutes. Nevertheless, the system didn’t recognize a lack of engagement to the point that it shut down Autopilot

I blame the driver, but if the above is true there was a problem with the Tesla as well. The Tesla is intended to disengage and disable autopilot for the remainder of the drive after a small number of ignored alerts. If the car didn’t do that, there’s a bug in the Tesla software.

I think it’s more likely the driver used a trick to make the car think he was engaged when he was not. You can do things like put a water bottle wedged in the steering wheel to make the car think you have tugged on the steering wheel to prove you are engaged. (Don’t ask me how I know)

[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

The Tesla is intended to disengage and disable autopilot

What about: slow down, pull up to the right, stop the car, THEN disengage?

[-] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I think that's what it was supposed to do. I remember seeing a few videos about this.

[-] thekinghaslost@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

IIRC it doesn't pull up to the side, but it does slow down slowly and safely until a full-stop.

Then the autopilot disengage.

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[-] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

That wasn't what it did here.

Like all the poor delusional fanbois here, you are going on the wrong assumption that some warning has been ignored. Just watch the initial video again and listen better this time.

[-] Technoguyfication@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I’m not even replying to the article or the original commenter. I’m replying to the person that said “why doesn’t the car slow down and stop when the warnings are ignored?” which is precisely what it does.

I’m far from a Tesla fanboy, and there is no shortage of valid criticisms against Tesla. However, misrepresenting what autopilot does in the event of a forced disengagement isn’t right either.

[-] RushingSquirrel@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago

After 3 alerts, it's off until you park. There are visual cues that precede the alert though and these do not count. I don't recall how many there are and for how long, but you start by seeing a message asking to have your hands on the wheel, then a blue line at the top, them the line starts pulsing ,then you've got an audio alert that is the first strike. Three strikes during the same drive and you need to park before using autopilot again.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

And those alerts don't come if you've overridden the system by putting a weight on the wheel or something.

[-] SargTeaPot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago
[-] Ado@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Balancing an orange on the steering wheel?

[-] RealJoL@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Pressing it between the spokes of the steering wheel, jamming it in place.

[-] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 4 points 1 year ago

These days it'll detect that and shut down anyway.

I've had my hand misdetected as a 'defeat device' once.

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