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"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that 'some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest' of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called 'social fascists.'

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

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[-] hate2bme@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

Vote for who YOU want to be president, regardless of if they have a chance to win or not. I wasn't going to vote for Biden (or Trump) no matter what. I see people saying if you vote 3rd party you're waisting your vote. You aren't. You are supporting the candidate you like.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I am sorry, but this take is founded on a lack of knowledge about the spoiler effect in first past the post voting systems. Until more representative forms of voting are introduced this is an idealistic but ultimately misinformed take.

The spoiler effect is a system powerful encumbant politicians use to manipulate populaces at large in part by taking advantage of your better nature and belief in a flawed system. Voting your heart will just not be enough and it's got hidden dangers. Pressure needs to be applied after this election to change the voting structure to a more stable and open system.

https://youtu.be/3Y3jE3B8HsE?si=qCvPLnk4u6FJ0ec2

Here's a video that explains fairly susinctly what the spoiler effect is and how alternative voting systems disrupt it.

[-] hate2bme@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Still gonna vote for who I like and always will. I was gonna vote for Vermin Supreme until Biden dropped out.

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