I tend to browse /All and by New on Lemmy. I went to respond on a thread on !vegan@lemmy.world to thank someone for a recipe that looked good, and found out I had been banned.
Odd, considering I hadn't posted to that sub at any point in the past. I checked the modlog to find that "Mod" had banned a bunch of people citing "Rule 5."
Their Rule 5 states: Bad-faith carnist rhetoric & anti-veganism are not allowed, as this is not a space to debate the merits of veganism. Anyone is welcome here, however, and so good-faith efforts to ask questions about veganism may be given their own weekly stickied post in the future (see current stickied discussion).
I (and hundreds of others) seemingly broke rule 5 of this community without ever posting there. What is going on?
And my apologies if this isn't the place for this, but I had no idea where else to post the question.
The ~~lie detector~~ search function determined that was a lie.
Those certainly look like arguments against veganism to me! What would you call them?
That's not a "strawman," it's a parody.
~~The lie detector~~ My ability to read the rest of this thread determined that was a lie.
So you're attempting to escalate the issue to the admins... but not because you're upset or anything. Right. In that case, why are you trying to waste their time?
All the rest of your points are completely irrelevant and I don't care about them at all.
What a great ride. I started this thread thinking Objection was being a dick, but OP bringing up logical fallacies in an internet argument is usually a red flag signalling a nugget head.
Jumping into a vegan space to argue someone isn't being vegan for the right reasons? While I don't think it's permanent-ban worthy it's annoying as fuck.
I'm not even vegan and that looked like some bullshit to me.
But I didn't go into a vegan space, nor did I mention logical fallacies.
The thread they brought up was from a memes Community. The person I was posting against at the time was PMing people and telling them to kill themselves.
Oops you're right. I did not correctly check the sub. I stand by the rest. Arguing logical fallacies against someone's diet choices is a dick move and is still arguing against veganism.
I can't verify if they were telling people to kill themselves or what that has to do with their reasons for eating plants. If I made death threats online, which no one should do and is a faux pas, I should still be able to use factory farming as a reason for avoiding meat.
Again, don't think it's ban worthy. I'm in the peanut gallery over here just having a good time.
I also wasn't arguing against their dietary choices. I was showing that their arguments could be turned back on themselves because they were spurious at best.
Before I replied, the now-deleted user was stating that there was no reason to eat meat unless you're a psychopath and love murder and was threatening suicide, violence to others, and other such garbage throughout the thread, then followed it up with a stream of PMs to a bunch of users including myself with some... not great / illegal content (we'll say).
My response was purely a "let's look at your statements, but in good faith" exercise.
Put simply, they started attacking food choices first and I called them on it. I'm okay with what I said.
You know what? Even with missing the content, I think your statement is fair. I've got a sore spot for using fallacies and disagree with your arguments against the reasons for a vegan diet, but you seem genuine in your motives. I apologize for calling you a nugget head.
I legitimately appreciate that.
As an aside, it's odd how much was purged from this thread. Not just deleted, but straight up purged so it doesn't show in the modlogs. I don't think I've seen that done on my instance outside of the illegal stuff. Is that normal here on .world?
I don't read comments often enough to know what's normal. The only good reason I can think of is anti-bot/anti-spam measures and even then it's a bit strange. How do you know they were purged?