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this post was submitted on 12 Aug 2023
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I share your sentiment. Every now and then I see a conversation like this and it points to exploding heads or similar, but that's disappointing. I've actually checked it out and it's just 5-6 basement dwellers posting memes to their own communities without any interaction. That's not political right; that's just a bunch of losers. It's also sad that this is what the fediverse thinks right wing is.
It's not just the fediverse that thinks this of the right.
Taking the US as an example: if you look at how often conservative/republican politicians oppose hateful people like Trump you're going to find it... nearly doesn't happen at all. They stood together and supported him.
The problem actually isn't that someone like Trump can get into office or some harmful and bigoted policy can appear for consideration. The issue is that it gets supported, it gets tolerated.
At least in the US-y sense of left/right, I think this makes it fair to group those people together. I'll stop doing that when there's an apparent distinction.
What's a sensible political right space look like in your opinion? Because, in my view, self-identified conservatives on the internet tend to be the ones espousing hate and/or conspiracy theories while the more moderate ones don't use the label or stick to centrist if anything. At the very least, there is an image problem with conservatism online.
Maybe those conservative instances are disappointing because conservatism itself is disappointing?
Seems like conservatives mostly consist of denying reality, believing in conspiracy theories or working against human rights.
well i mean,,, same thing
I got blasted a while back because I said I am a centrist who doesn't fully side with anybody. Too many people want an echo chamber.
Would you be a centrist in 1930s Germany too?
Yes, because a centrist wouldn't want the totalitarian regime of Hitler either.
What I meant is that not voting against Nazis/conservatives in a two party system is almost as bad as voting for them.
What does this have to do with the point I'm trying to make here?
That that is why you got blasted.
Ah yes, the good ol' argument that if I criticize the progressives in any way, that means I'm a Trump supporter. Get out of here with that bullshit.
This binary view of politics is exactly what's ruining this country.
Right wingers sure are losers tho