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Ukraine is committed to peace but not at the expense of giving up its territory, President Volodymyr Zelensky said in a sit down with representatives of the Indian media that was published on Aug. 25.

Zelensky spoke with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi of the need for Russia's war to end during the latter's historic visit to Kyiv on Aug. 23.

"When you say 'diplomacy', I'm all for it, but I'd like to see concrete steps that are not at the expense of 30% of our state and not at the expense of our population. If there is such a plan, we're all for it," Zelensky said.

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[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There was a post about this in !worldnews@lemmy.ml the other day.

https://lemmy.world/comment/11950407

“We were not neutral from day one, we have taken a side, and we stand firmly for peace,” Modi said. Modi is paying the first visit to Ukraine by an Indian prime minister. As he pushed for a way forward on ending the Ukraine war, Modi urged Zelensky to sit down for talks with Russia and offered to act as a “friend” to help bring peace. “No problem can be resolved on a battlefield,” Modi said in Poland on Wednesday before heading to Ukraine.

At best, Modi is equivocating on taking a side while calling for "peace". At worst, he's using "peace" as a cudgel to pressure Ukraine into ceding the territory to Russia.

Incidentally I was banned for my comments in that post. All I said was basically that Ukraine has a right to defend itself, and one of their communist mods @OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml called that "pro war", removed my posts and banned me (modlog).

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

lemmy.ml

Well there's your problem.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 months ago

yeah just block worldnews on the ml instance, they did you a favor by banning you. They're very transparently operating as a tankie Russian propaganda arm and you're wasting your time even interacting with them.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Mods on Lemmy.ml are fragile eggshells allergic to facts. It's really best to avoid the entire instance.

[-] Five@slrpnk.net -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The irony saying that while the World mods are actively censoring criticism.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It appears that you are unbanned and were able to remain unbanned while disagreeing with the mods, that's pretty different. What's your objection, you and them disagree on what is spamming or not?

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm quite certain if I ignored the warning, I would earn a ban. The difference isn't between the World and ML mods, it's between me trying to play nice with their inconsistent bullshit rules, and the people getting banned from ML not respecting the predictable bullshit rules of that instance.

It's obviously more than a disagreement about how to define 'spamming.' The MBFC bot is now the most downvoted account in Lemmy history, and it is now more unpopular than the most popular Lemmy account is popular. It appears in every !news, !world, and !politics thread where it is experienced as spam by the vast majority of users.

But the harm it does is greater than merely taking up pagespace. It distorts the discussion in favor of MBFC's author's right-wing views, and gives the World mods the pretense of neutrality when removing left-wing voices from their communities. The MBFC has been widely discredited. For example, Wikipedia's Reliable Sources Noticeboard rates sources as generally reliable (green), no consensus (yellow), mostly unreliable (red).

Giving this joke of a resource an institutional place in the flagship communities of the Lemmy's largest instance are an embarrassment to the entire Threadiverse project. Due to WP's policy of neutrality, it's even more damning when you look under the hood and read the specific criticisms that lead its policy of not linking MBFC in its pages. I am being threatened by the mods for reposting excepts from those criticisms in reply to the MBFC bot spam.

[-] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it's not like Modi benefits from any, relatively recent, past history of violence, used to resolve a problem with another country that invaded them, and took their territory. I can't help but think I am forgetting about something though.

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