286
submitted 1 month ago by smwygdl@infosec.pub to c/linux@lemmy.ml
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You misunderstood me. All the can’s and some’s aren’t purposeless in a sentence you know. Besides uni gives you other things like friends and connections that are invaluable and motivates you for plethora of subjects you don’t want to learn.

All I said is that unis can feel super slow compared to on your own rate of learning assuming you could find motivation to learn it all on your own.

I once met someone from 3d art program that struggled to make a chess piece in blender. Something that took me what 3-4 days to learn from scratch?

Or also that you could be dropped into the middle of Germany with a dictionary in hand and learn more Deutsch in two months than in 5 years of formal education. (God that sounds like some ww2 operation stuff)

I guess the point is that you learn things you like super fast compared to the average assumption of pace by the course/degree makers and thank god because how else would League of Legends tournaments fit into the schedule?

The pace is relaxing and that’s absolutely fine by me and when you go to a job market you still have pretty big upper hand and use 1/50 of stuff you learned.

But sometimes, sometimes you feel like fuck maybe I should be doing something harder. And „Is that all?”. Cracking decompiled programs in assembly as a kid was harder and much more fun than your run of the mill backend dot net coding that just doesn’t hit dopamine receptors anymore.

[-] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Trust me, if you wanna learn German by being airdropped into the country with a dictionary, you'll have a very very bad time compared to what Goethe Institute teaches.

Because in order to properly speak the language you need to know the grammar. And you will almost certainly not ever grasp it properly on your own without guidance by an experienced educator. Germany is full of those people who after decades of living there keep making awful grammatical mistakes. While people who went to Goethe Institute usually don't.

Same for people who learn JavaScript from a tutorial and suddenly they're a web dev, but understand nothing about algorithms complexity and so the whole fuckin internet is so slow it hurts.

Precisely because of that attitude of yours.

It takes a day to learn how to train an AI model in python. It takes a PhD to understand what you're doing.

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You can theoretically learn it all on your own. There’s no magic barrier that says you can’t. The ”only” problem is motivation and arranging a plan and materials. Is it better or feasible and realistic for just about anyone? Probably not.

Pretending otherwise is just odd. There’s no magic to it. It’s just your brain, material and exercise. It can be plain or it can be fun and hands on.

I don’t know why you suggested that you only can learn algorithms and complexity during formal education but not the hill to die on. It’s pretty simple concept after all.

Aside from again taking my words and twisting them to „formal education is useless and everyone is better off learning on their own” which I never said nor meant. You also suggested that I think some kind of random JavaScript tutorial is what I meant by alternative to formal education which again is your own liberal interpretation of my words and kind of insulting to be honest.

You are fighting the argument I never made and point I never meant which you are by all means free to do so but it is kind of pointless and a bit awkward. But if someone else ever makes it I guess it is just copy paste now for the future heated debates.

Also this is prime example that someone can be well educated but still a bit struggling with reading and text comprehension to the point it is hard or impossible to communicate effectively.

[-] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

You can theoretically learn it is not the point. Your point was "I can learn how to code up a website in a week, and my degree wastes 4 years". No, it doesn't.

this post was submitted on 16 Aug 2024
286 points (98.0% liked)

Linux

47325 readers
906 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS