2013

Vulnerabilities in Sogou Keyboard encryption expose keypresses to network eavesdropping.

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[-] ObamaBinLaden@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

And gboard or SwiftKey don't?

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every single time something sketchy is happening in Chinese tech a Lemmy user will slide the conversation and accusations to American tech. It's a rule.

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

Is not about American/Chinese government, is about privacy. ANY company or government storing your data can be extremely problematic in the future.

Yeah the Sogou Keyboard send data to Tencent, the same thing happens or could happens with others proprietary keyboards in the future. How about trying a FOSS one?

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's absolutely about the American/Chinese government, I don't see comments forum sliding into Chinese tech on every post about Google.

But no, swift and gboard don't send your data to the American government.

There's also a dangerous misconception around here that FOSS == privacy safe. It doesn't.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

There is also a differece between invading your privacy and compromising your security. Both are bad, but one is much worse at least in my view. Keylogging and then sending those keystrokes back to base with a dodgey custom rolled encryption framework is not just a breach of privacy.

[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 4 points 1 year ago

On all social media, that seems to happen and it makes me sick.

People not knowing how scary the Chinese government is speaks volumes about the future of other countries. We had all the opportunity to see it happen and avoid it and these morons dismiss the truth and whatabout every damned thing

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Well, we have actual evidence here of dodgy shit happening, but what about this other thing I assume is also happening based on absolutely nothing? See, both just as bad!

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gboard doesn't at least. It does send some stuff but not keystrokes

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

It sends whole words instead!

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Any data you submit to Google is stored and analysed. That's different from sending keystrokes as they happen though.

I'm all for criticising invasive data use and collection which Google is definitely guilty of. It's not the same as keylogging though which is not just a privacy concern but a pretty serious security one as well. Also we have actual evidence here of Tencent doing this which makes a difference to me at least.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

We can't know for sure if they're not open source

[-] supercheesecake@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I’m not sure if that’s true. You know, it’s Google. Every keystroke in your gmail email is analysed, so can’t imagine gboard is any different to them.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 7 points 1 year ago

While GBoard is closed source, they have documented that they use federated learning. Meaning their model is generated on-device and only the inferences are sent to Google.

That being said, I use OpenBoard.

[-] itsJoelle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Plus it also has the feature where you can drag on the space bar to move the letterhead!

[-] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

I prefer OpenBoard, it doesn't send keystrokes to any server

[-] august_senpai@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The fork even has support for swipe, autocorrect, word prediction, clipboard management, etc, and is way more lightweight than Gboard and the rest. Zero reason to use anything else at the moment.

[-] portside@monyet.cc 2 points 1 year ago

What's the fork? I've been using Florisboard beta (ehich is also opensource) and pretty happy with it. The only things I miss is swipe for dictionary words

[-] august_senpai@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://github.com/Helium314/openboard
Important to note that you need to install a library from inside the app's settings to enable swipe typing. Ctrl+F "enable gesture typing" on the Github page to see where to get it.

[-] portside@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago

I loaded the library but couldn't see a toggle to turn it on.

[-] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Uhhh it's pretty blatant.
OpenBoard Settings > Gesture Typing > Enable Gesture Typing

[-] portside@monyet.cc 1 points 1 year ago
[-] august_senpai@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it's the fork I've linked. You got it from here, yes? Also, the option only appears after you successfully load a library by going to Advanced > Load gesture typing library. Since you said you'd already loaded it I didn't mention that. You might've loaded the incorrect file or something.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Not if you block internet connection at system level. I think it can be done if GBoard in installed as an user app, not as a system one.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 1 year ago

Might as well just use Open Board.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Of course. My "problem" is that I need to write in 3 languages at the same time and switching languages manually in Open board is a bit cumbersome, while in GBoard it happens automatically.

[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 0 points 1 year ago

This "they're all bad" shit aimed at the Chinese government makes me so sad. How many of you dullards have even heard of Tienanmen square

[-] SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org 3 points 1 year ago

The downvotes tell me some people need to Google Tienanmen square. From outside China. Inside china, it didn't happen. Erases from history

[-] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

It's not called the 'Tiananmen Square' by the Chinese - that's just the name of the place. Either 六四屠殺 (June 4 massacre) or 六四鎮壓 (June 4 crackdown) would be more likely. And yes, expect loads of downvoting on Lemmy if you're ever critical of China.

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