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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're interchangeable tankie fuckwads. It doesn't matter what their names are, they all regurgitate the same lines. Besides, I'd rather not fuel their persecution complex.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Most of them don't have names because they're LLMs.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hey, let's leave the baseless LLM accusations to them, yeah?

LLMs are used in discourse to change people's minds. No one who thinks the Tiananmen Square massacre happened is going to buy this, especially if the only place they post their opinions to the contrary is an instance that every other Lemmy instance with an ounce of self-respect has defederated from. It's tempting to believe these people as AIs because the alternative is believing that actual humans hold those views, which is much scarier. Unlike tankies I have faith in our ability to live without comforting delusions.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not baseless, its well-known that the Kremlin uses anonymous social media to influence elections, and we should call it out when we see it.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anonymous social media accounts sure. But using LLMs to spread propaganda in a forum where the only people liable to see it are people who already agree just seems like a waste of effort.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

The Kremlin reinforces a range of extremist political beliefs in order to create tension. Digital divide and conquer.