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For the sake of combating the narrative, this album shows the truth of what happened during the student protests in China in 1989, including the context of the "Tank Man" photo:
https://archive.ph/7Tdzh
Warning: blood, gore, visible injuries, death.
The lie that no one was killed by the CCP should be repudiated at every opportunity.
The CCP would prefer that you are only aware of the "Tank Man" photo, that you don't fit it into its larger context. They would prefer that you not discuss the horrific brutality they created when they used their military to suppress the voices of their own citizens, or the absolute disaster that Maoism brought to China. They would prefer that you forget that they repeated that brutality in Hong Kong. They would prefer that you forget the whole thing.
Fuck them.
Even the CCP admits that some protesters were killed. Wild that Western tankies dial up the denialism even past that.
They're edgy tweens, just block them and move on. They'll learn if someone doesn't slap them to death before they hit their twenties.
Man, I remember when I was in school the edgy tweens and teens who claimed to be communist didn't say stupid shit like denying actual history... They just wore red berets and Che Guevara t-shirts, completely oblivious to how that was supporting capitalism.
They're not western anything, they're LLMs run by Dmitri in St Petersburg.
General consensus is that there wad no massacre on the square. Once had a tankie bringing all the sources that says "Nothing happened on Tienanmen square but PLA killed thousands of people outside of it".
They're delusional. There is little use in trying to engage with them. Convince other people who may unironically be convinced by them but don't engage with them.
Yup. Spread the truth wherever you see the lies.
I don't think that's a consensus at all. Most of the reports I have seen suggest that the violence started in the square when students were attacked minutes after they had agreed to leave, as soon as they had broke ranks, as it were. The violence then spread throughout the city afterwards as various groups attempted to reorganize in different places.
Honestly didn’t realize there were that many photos. I’ve only seen Tank man and photos of protestors. I had no idea the violence was so well documented
Tankies with a few more braincells than the others will know about these pictures and insist there were only a few hundred killed and most were not in the square. They flatly deny the massacre and instead paint it as a riot being put down or... Something to that effect. I forget the specifics.
I will remember the man in the white shirt, quietly standing in the path of a CCP tank, with grocery bags in his right hand. We don't know what they did to him after that, but he matters. He will always matter.