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Fees are no problem, they come along with valuable services. Taxes is theft and is extracted by the use of violence then the funds are stolen, wasted, and used to commit murder.
Okay, then leave civilised society.
Forcing people to pay up at gunpoint is not very civilized. Sounds like theft to me.
enjoying the services everybody paid while not wanting to contribute is the actual theft.
Stealing from others to provide yourself with "services" is theft. I do not want the state to decide what services I need and then steal the amount they think is needed.
The vast majority of money stolen is wasted or used for evil, a tiny fraction goes to "services", which by the way are horrible.
Holy shit.. that went insane insanely fast.
I promote hardcore freedom in hopes that we may get at least some freedom. Just like the communists, they always go for starving and murdering everyone in hopes to get at least 40-60%
How would a guverment work without taxes? And if your argument is that a society works without a guverment, how would that work in regards to hospitals, firefighters, cops, social programs for the poor or homeless, etc?
The government should be extremely limited and funded by fees charged for useful services it provides, if needed a small sales tax could be instituted locally.
Rights need to be restored back to the individual so people can take care of themselves as needed in terms of defense and health care instead of sending 80% of their income to be wasted relying on some horrible and inefficient system. Once we wrangle the state back down to size people will have more than enough wealth to give to charities to help the poor.
Boy, do I have news for you about private companies. Turns out government works tend to be more efficient, and less wasteful than private.
Turns out it does not. 50% of stolen money (tax revenue) is used to murder people around the world.
What companies are making those weapons and arms used in wars? Private companies, paid for with tax dollars.
Also, only 12% of the US federal budget went to the military in 2022. Social Security, Healthcare, and Welfare were all bigger parts of US federal spending, with medicare just being behind military spending.
They are not. These are communist owned, the communists running the state create war and steal money from the public then hand it over to their commie friends known as "weapons companies", you have been duped.
Wrong, US military spending is >50% of all spending. https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/military-spending-united-states/
You are living in a communist slave system.
No, they are capitalist owned. if they were communist the people would own them.
And that graph is completely inaccurate. here is the budget actual from 2015:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_United_States_federal_budget#Outlays_by_budget_function
Notice how military spending is 631 billion out of 3.89 trillion, which is about 16%.
And the budget from 2022 had an even lower percentage of military spending:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_federal_budget
Seriously, vet your sources man, that crap you linked to is easily disproven.
You are looking at budget definitions, I was looking at what it actually being spent. More communist deception.
Even if your data is completely right that is still insanely too high, the communist war machine needs to be stopped!
No you weren't, you were linking to a shitty website with false data. You were the one duped by lies and propaganda.
And yes, the 12% is still too high, the US doesn't need to spend nearly that much on the military. But they aren't spending 50+%, that was just a lie, from a shitty website that fooled you.
Yes, the website you linked to is the correct data. Of course how stupid of me.
Wikipedia, yes. It's publicly editable and verifiable by anyone.
Nationalpriorities.org is a pile of propaganda designed to fool you. You don't even know who's running it.
wikipedia? umm no it's not, it is state propaganda with mostly lies and official narratives. are you retarded?
No, that would clearly be you at this point.
The state does not own, or run Wikipedia, it's a non-profit organization. And if you find something wrong on a Wikipedia page, then find a source for correction and correct it.
And who exactly runs that crap site you posted?
They lock edits and it is controlled. Find one Wikipedia page that contradicts the state narrative. Only mainline propaganda is allowed there any other information is automatically labled conspiracy.
It is full of bias and lies as well as baseless character assassinations. It is fully controlled by leftists. You are a leftist so you think it is free and open.
Congratulations you just described taxation.
Taxation is theft. I described voluntary payments for services rendered.
Yes on a societal scale that's called taxation.
Taxes is not voluntary, threats of violence and violence is used to extract wealth from victims.
You have been indoctrinated that evil is OK on a "social scale". You are a pawn dupe.
Taxes are voluntary. Resign your citizenship and go stateless. It's an option right here right now but I imagine your not going to do that since society is kinda nice to have around.
Nope, reading comprehension boss. I never once said I agree, I simply stated fact and reality.
So we should have just told the slaves to resign and go master-less instead of trying to abolish slavery. After all who would pick the cotton if the slaves were not there...they were nice to have around.
Bro pick a topic. What's next? A far far leap of a switch to something about Hitler I'm gunna guess, seems par for the course.
The topic is you are indoctrinated and fighting for your own enslavement.
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yup, no cowardly boot lickers here
Bro you're quite literally boot licking a corporation commiting tax theft..... Try harder or I dunno basic common sense if that fails.
Yea, communism is the most disgusting and degenerate ideology, I cant fathom how so many morons cling to this stupidity.
Lemme ask a question. Were your ancestors degenerate? How about the Bible, is the Bible degenerate? Where are we drawing these absurd moral lines.
Common sense, forcing people at gunpoint to do your will is immoral, degenerate and evil. This is what communism is about. Complete eradication of free will and only the will of the state be done.
God is the embodiment of morality, He asks us to do His will because it is the best thing for us, however He will never force you to do anything.
It's not at gunpoint don't be so dramatic blossom. That's not what Communism is about, that's what people who tend to screech about things they know not of tend to say and refuse to back it up in any way.. wait that dies sound familiar.
Wrong. Morality is by definition imposed by man, the Bible even says so. He does, lemme ask you a question what happens if you sin. Hell right? So how is sin = hell more moral than pay tax = don't go to jail or lose citizenship.
Communism requires all power be held by the state and none by the individual. Like property, the state would, at gunpoint, snatch all property from those who earned it.
Your interpretation of the Bible is surface level and simplistic. Sin destroys you and leads you further away from God, it is a hell worse than any imaginable. Your god is the state, this is obvious.