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I started CICO, once again, mid-May at 160 pounds. Now at the end of June, I'm down to 153 lbs.

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We have heard it so many times that it sounds like a weight-loss fact: eat less, move more as if both are equal and required. But that is not a fact, as people who are bedridden and cannot move more could not lose weight. Another problem with this fact is that it is self-reinforcing because our own experience tells us that eat less, move more has resulted in weight-loss for us.

So what is really going on here? Let's flip this on its head.

  1. We cannot diet our body strong. Physical activity makes our body strong.
  2. We cannot outexercise our food intake (at least, not unless we're extreme about it). Order that dessert in a restaurant. It takes 5 minutes to eat 750 kcal, about 7½ miles worth of running food (and that's 45 minutes if you run like me, probably 30 if you're good). No, losing weight is mostly managed by decreasing our incoming calories rather than exercising them off.

Thinking of those two things in the negative helps us make this clear:

  • Physical activity is primarily for managing our fitness. Lift for strength. Walk/run for endurance. (Lot of options in the areas of exercises, sports, physical jobs, hobbies, and lifestyle patterns.)
  • Eating right is for managing our body's weight. More for more, less for less.

Breaking them out into these two separate fields, instead of together, helps us see which tools belong to which job.

You might observe that these do have some overlap, but in that overlap there is both the complementary and the confounding. Exercise burns calories but also makes us actually hungrier and psychologically feel needy and deserving of more food. For this overall reason, we can make this statement:

Managing our food is required for weight loss. Exercise, mainly for fitness, and if the food is managed, it can secondarily help in weight loss.

That way we're clear. We prioritize better. Rather than run to lose weight, we run for endurance and conditioning. Running to lose weight is the wrong tool for the job. If we understand that, we won't quickly answer a failure to lose weight (a long plateau) with even more running. We'll still run if we enjoy it or need that training -- it's healthy and good for our fitness. If not running, we must do something else to be fit and healthy. Next to quitting smoking and losing weight, exercise is just about the best thing you can do for your health.

To lose weight, focus on the diet and primarily the diet. And since we don't just want to lose weight but to become and stay a right weight forever, let's not "go on a diet" temporarily but forever fix what's wrong with our eating and make it right. We do this with smaller adjustments to our regular normal food and our normal eating patterns, and not on mostly "weight loss" food or weird schemes.

Then, to that working change to our lifestyle's forever diet, the exercise that we do can also be assistive (but not primary) in weight loss.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by grey@discuss.tchncs.de to c/loseit@discuss.tchncs.de

Two things make you feel less hungry, longer. And that's fiber and protein. So what's something portable like an apple that I could buy a lot of and eat at work or whatever? Like I could buy a lot of apples and eat them anywhere, and while they have fiber they don't really have protein.

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I used to use the My Fitness Pal app to count calories, but it seems that since I've last used it they put more things in the paid tier, including barcode scanning which I always found super useful. But I think I'll go back to CICO tracking because my weight has crawled back up to where it was before.

Is there a good alternative app with as powerful logging and calorie counting features or should I just pay the money?

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Trying to try again (lemmy.world)

Fell off the wagon for a few weeks. Just eating like shit. Not keeping track of anything in my app. Got back on yesterday. Went over on my calories but my weight has stayed below 200 which I'm grateful for. For my height and build I should be around 170 and I'm recommitting to getting there. As it is I've only really come down from 205 in the few months since I first started using LoseIt.

I know beer is the biggest contributor. I've just got such a taste for it and I'm very bad with moderation when it comes to anything addicting like that. Sugar, soda, just anything that's a "well maybe just one" kind of treat. You know it's never just one but also, the more you consume it regularly the harder it is to say no.

The bright spots though are that I've been exercising more regularly (decided at 35 to try and skateboard again, which is one hell of a workout), and that I've been taking extra steps to make sure I've got healthy food within reach at home or at work. I'm also trying not to overeat. We went to Olive Garden last night for a celebration, and I only had half of my chicken parmigiana because that's how much made me feel full. A less CICO conscious version of me would've eaten all of it because that's what was on my plate. As it is, now I've got tasty leftovers for tonight.

Thanks for your time. I believe I can do better. Root for me, please.

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Hey, I created some "group threads" in the past week and overall I think the number of comments in them is so low that it just makes sense for Questions and SV/NSV (scale victories, non-scale victories) to be posted as Posts, which also means they are easier to spot for people in lemmy as well.

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SV: 2.7 kgs down (discuss.tchncs.de)

After some days of weight fluctuaions, I got a new lowest-weight reading today since I started calory-counting in June.

Doing CICO at ~ 1900 kcal per day and try to add sports on top if feasible (this week it wasn't because a family member was sick).

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Hi all! I have lost 60 lbs so far, currently plateaued. I still have another 40-60 to go. I am having a hard time finding easy, protein heavy foods. I eat lots of chicken and eggs. I'm not a huge fan of beef - i like it, but don't like supporting the industry. I don't much like cooking anymore & most "quick and easy" foods are majorly carb and sugar heavy. Any suggestions for high protein welcome. Meal prep type recipes fine too, if i can knock out cooking a week's worth of protein snacks in one day that's great.

Happy losing :)

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Got a question? We've got answers!

Do you have question but don't want to make a whole post? That's fine. Ask right here! What is on your mind? Everyone is welcome to ask questions or provide answers. No question is too minor or small.

Include your stats if appropriate/relevant

Don't forget to comment and interact with other posters here, let's keep the good vibes going!

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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/141629

Scale Victory, Non-Scale Victory, Progress, Milestones -- this is the place! Big or small, please post here and help us focus all of today's awesomeness into an inspiring and informative mega-dose of greatness!

  • Did your scale drop again?
  • Did you log for an entire week?
  • Finally hitting those water goals?
  • Fit into your old pair of jeans?
  • Have a fitness feat?

Post it here!

Don't forget to comment and interact with other posters here, let's keep the good vibes going!

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Got a question? We've got answers!

Do you have question but don't want to make a whole post? That's fine. Ask right here! What is on your mind? Everyone is welcome to ask questions or provide answers. No question is too minor or small.

Include your stats if appropriate/relevant

Don't forget to comment and interact with other posters here, let's keep the good vibes going!

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Scale Victory, Non-Scale Victory, Progress, Milestones -- this is the place! Big or small, please post here and help us focus all of today's awesomeness into an inspiring and informative mega-dose of greatness!

  • Did your scale drop again?
  • Did you log for an entire week?
  • Finally hitting those water goals?
  • Fit into your old pair of jeans?
  • Have a fitness feat?

Post it here!

Don't forget to comment and interact with other posters here, let's keep the good vibes going!

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Got a question? We've got answers!

Do you have question but don't want to make a whole post? That's fine. Ask right here! What is on your mind? Everyone is welcome to ask questions or provide answers. No question is too minor or small.

Include your stats if appropriate/relevant

Don't forget to comment and interact with other posters here, let's keep the good vibes going!

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Scale Victory, Non-Scale Victory, Progress, Milestones -- this is the place! Big or small, please post here and help us focus all of today's awesomeness into an inspiring and informative mega-dose of greatness!

  • Did your scale drop again?
  • Did you log for an entire week?
  • Finally hitting those water goals?
  • Fit into your old pair of jeans?
  • Have a fitness feat?

Post it here!

Don't forget to comment and interact with other posters here, let's keep the good vibes going!

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Friday Food Foto (discuss.tchncs.de)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by kephalos@discuss.tchncs.de to c/loseit@discuss.tchncs.de

You should be able to upload photos in a comment on lemmy!

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Weekly threads? (discuss.tchncs.de)

Should we have weekly threads like the subreddit. ? Iirc there could be weigh-in Wednesday threads etc. the thing is, I don’t think lemmy automates this.

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I'm a short person. I'm also sedentary and classified as overweight but not obese. As such, my TDEE is around 1600-1700 calories. So, to lose weight at the pace I'd like, I have to restrict myself to 1200 calories a day.

My partner is taller, fatter and has more muscle mass than me. He's talked about wanting to lose weight to get healthier, but when it comes down to it he won't do anything. Which is baffling to me, because his TDEE is high enough that he could eat waaay more than me and still lose weight.

Ugh. It's frustrating.

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So I'm currently on my fifth or sixth attempt to lose weight. Historically, I've tracked my calorie intake for a few weeks or a few months, lost a few pounds, fallen off the wagon and gained it all back.

There are a number of things going on this month that I'm choosing to participate in that are going to have to be cheat days or cheat meals. Without disclosing too many details, my workplace is holding an event where there's going to be a lot of free food. Another one is that I'll be traveling for work for a few days and I'll be eating out since I won't have access to a kitchen.

Progress, not perfection is the mantra I've been repeating. I'm gonna want to stop counting calories on the work trip - a work trip was the hurdle that made me give on my last weight loss attempt. I'm trying to give myself some grace - it's okay if I gain some weight, because I can lose it again if I keep tracking my intake. Even if I don't limit what I eat at all on the trip and the other events, if I get back on the weight loss wagon that's still progress.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by tatzelkatz@discuss.tchncs.de to c/loseit@discuss.tchncs.de

I've lost 10 kg in three, four weeks eating raw vegetables. You can eat very large quantities of vegetables, and you can use large quantities of olive oil without negative effect on weight loss.

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Tracking calories for weight loss, I realized that milk is "heavy", and I poured a lot of it into my coffee. Now I can think of better use for these calories (in solid form) in my <2000kcal deficit plan.

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