drebora

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kereszt-bejegyzés innen: https://lemmy.ml/post/39008457

Hi everyone, I posted about my Safebox project earlier, but now I'd like to hear your thoughts on something a bit broader. I’ve been noticing a pattern in self-hosting communities, and I’m curious if others see it too.

Whenever someone asks for a more beginner-friendly solution, something with a UI, automated setup, or fewer manual configs, there’s often a response like: “If you can’t configure Docker, reverse proxies, and Yaml files, you shouldn’t be self-hosting.”

Sometimes it feels like a portion of the community views complexity as a badge of honour. Don’t get me wrong, I love the technical side of self-hosting. I enjoy tinkering, breaking things, fixing them, learning along the way. That’s how most of us got into it.

But if we want more people to own their data, escape Big Tech, and embrace open-source alternatives, shouldn’t we welcome solutions that lower the entry barrier?

There’s room for:

  • people who want full control and custom setups
  • people who want semi-manual but guided
  • people who want it to work with minimal friction

Just like not every Linux user compiles from source, but they’re still Linux users.

Where do you stand? Should self-hosting stay DIY only or is there value in easier, more accessible ways to self-host?

Safebox aims to make self-hosting more approachable without sacrificing data ownership, so I genuinely want your honest take before releasing it more widely.

Some technical highlights of the project, for those interested:

Safebox runs on Linux, macOS, and Windows, supports both x86 and ARM64 (including Raspberry Pi, Banana Pi, and others), and handles domain/subdomain setup, Let’s Encrypt certificates, DNS configuration, reverse proxy (nginx), and also offers WireGuard-based remote access.

The project is currently in beta, and we’d really appreciate feedback from anyone interested in testing it, whether it’s about usability, stability, features, design, or honestly anything at all. You can find all the info about beta testing on our Discord channel.

If you’d like to try it out, check the Github repo: https://github.com/safeboxnetwork/framework-scheduler

Website: https://safebox.network/

Discord: https://discord.gg/aBP8bz6N8J

Thanks in advance to anyone who gives it a look or shares their thoughts.

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Of course, I don’t want anyone diving in completely blind, some basic knowledge, research, and interest are definitely needed. But if someone decides they really want to keep their data safe and under their own control, even something like family photos, they should be able to get started in a simpler way. Then, once the first step doesn’t seem too intimidating, they can deepen their technical skills. The goal of Safebox isn’t to replace that knowledge, just to make self hosting more accessible.

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

@cRazi_man@europe.pub I absolutely love your comments! You’ve chimed in on several of my posts already, and you always share such interesting stories and enthusiasm. I really hope it stays that way, keep being as passionate and helpful as you are, the self hosting community could use more people like you

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

@TopKnot@mas.to Yeah, it can definitely feel really complicated, especially when you’re just starting out. That’s actually one of the reasons we created Safebox, we went through the same struggles ourselves. We’re also working on proper documentation so others can better understand and learn from it.

By the way, is there a specific self hosted app you had in mind for storing the maps and documents you mentioned?

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks, must’ve missed that

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Safebox is basically a framework to help you install and manage self hosted apps. It also includes features like remote access, backup, monitoring, and disk management (the last three are still in development). Safebox handles all the setup for you, DNS configuration, SSL certificates, and so on. If you want remote access, all you need to do is provide a domain (it can be an existing one, or you can register it with us). Of course, you can still use it locally, remote access is just an optional feature.

For people who don’t want to deal with the technical side, or who are still learning but want to try out self-hosting, I think Safebox makes things a lot easier and gives them a solid starting point

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, as I mentioned earlier, proper documentation is already in the works, and I hope that will make it clear how our project differs. Thanks for the suggestion!

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I really like what you’re doing, keep it up!

 

kereszt-bejegyzés innen: https://lemmy.ml/post/39008457

Hi everyone, I posted about my Safebox project earlier, but now I'd like to hear your thoughts on something a bit broader. I’ve been noticing a pattern in self-hosting communities, and I’m curious if others see it too.

Whenever someone asks for a more beginner-friendly solution, something with a UI, automated setup, or fewer manual configs, there’s often a response like: “If you can’t configure Docker, reverse proxies, and Yaml files, you shouldn’t be self-hosting.”

Sometimes it feels like a portion of the community views complexity as a badge of honour. Don’t get me wrong, I love the technical side of self-hosting. I enjoy tinkering, breaking things, fixing them, learning along the way. That’s how most of us got into it.

But if we want more people to own their data, escape Big Tech, and embrace open-source alternatives, shouldn’t we welcome solutions that lower the entry barrier?

There’s room for:

  • people who want full control and custom setups
  • people who want semi-manual but guided
  • people who want it to work with minimal friction

Just like not every Linux user compiles from source, but they’re still Linux users.

Where do you stand? Should self-hosting stay DIY only or is there value in easier, more accessible ways to self-host?

Safebox aims to make self-hosting more approachable without sacrificing data ownership, so I genuinely want your honest take before releasing it more widely.

Some technical highlights of the project, for those interested:

Safebox runs on Linux, macOS, and Windows, supports both x86 and ARM64 (including Raspberry Pi, Banana Pi, and others), and handles domain/subdomain setup, Let’s Encrypt certificates, DNS configuration, reverse proxy (nginx), and also offers WireGuard-based remote access.

The project is currently in beta, and we’d really appreciate feedback from anyone interested in testing it, whether it’s about usability, stability, features, design, or honestly anything at all. You can find all the info about beta testing on our Discord channel.

If you’d like to try it out, check the Github repo: https://github.com/safeboxnetwork/framework-scheduler

Website: https://safebox.network/

Discord: https://discord.gg/aBP8bz6N8J

Thanks in advance to anyone who gives it a look or shares their thoughts.

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We created Safebox mainly to make self-hosting easier, and proper, complete documentation is definitely something we want to provide, it’s already in the works. We also thought a lot of people might learn from it, but the scope is huge, so we’re still figuring out the right balance.

Should we cover the basic concepts too? How deep should we go? Introducing the software itself is the easy part, explaining all the related concepts in a clear, non-technical way is the real challenge.

Our goal isn’t to turn Safebox into a full-on cybersecurity course, but we do want users to understand what’s happening and why certain features matter, so they don’t feel lost.

As for the sources you mentioned, I have to admit I’m not entirely sure either. During my university studies I only touched on cybersecurity partially, mostly around the risks users face and how they respond. Yes, there definitely needs to be some basic guidance on security, what the main risks are and how to keep yourself safe. Honestly, I think this could work even better as a community project, where different people can contribute their own approaches and share experiences on how they protect their setups and what has worked for them.

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks your detailed feedback, I’ll try to go through all your points.

When we said Docker, we meant the desktop version, basically so anyone can try Safebox on their own desktop and check out the early product. We also added an auto docker install for server setups a few days ago.

You’re right about the docs, they’re still in the works, and proper documentation will be released soon.

That other post you mentioned got a bit too heated, so the mods took it down. Definitely wasn’t our intention to stir up tension, and it wasn’t about not liking the answer or linking it to the product. Right now we’re mainly looking for early feedback and for people curious enough to help test things out.

Thanks for explaining your point of view and your suggestions. It means a lot for us in this early state, and looking forward of any future feedback of your about the actual product.

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Safebox is currently in mvp state, heavily under developement, and we looking for early user feedbacks. We created the dc server as a way to recieve these feedbacks and to lay the foundation for the future community.

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, that is kind of the case. Our goal and plan for the future is to offer an alternative with features you mentioned above. Safebox is currently in mvp state with limited features. If you take a look at the actual dashboard you can notice "monitoring" and "disk management" features alongside "backup"(both on Lan and geo-redundant between fellow users) will be available and updates for the OS and apps are already working it can be found (temporarily) under "notifications". At the moment we looking for early user feedbacks and testing demand.

 

Hi everyone, I posted about my Safebox project earlier, but now I'd like to hear your thoughts on something a bit broader. I’ve been noticing a pattern in self-hosting communities, and I’m curious if others see it too.

Whenever someone asks for a more beginner-friendly solution, something with a UI, automated setup, or fewer manual configs, there’s often a response like: “If you can’t configure Docker, reverse proxies, and Yaml files, you shouldn’t be self-hosting.”

Sometimes it feels like a portion of the community views complexity as a badge of honour. Don’t get me wrong, I love the technical side of self-hosting. I enjoy tinkering, breaking things, fixing them, learning along the way. That’s how most of us got into it.

But if we want more people to own their data, escape Big Tech, and embrace open-source alternatives, shouldn’t we welcome solutions that lower the entry barrier?

There’s room for:

  • people who want full control and custom setups
  • people who want semi-manual but guided
  • people who want it to work with minimal friction

Just like not every Linux user compiles from source, but they’re still Linux users.

Where do you stand? Should self-hosting stay DIY only or is there value in easier, more accessible ways to self-host?

Safebox aims to make self-hosting more approachable without sacrificing data ownership, so I genuinely want your honest take before releasing it more widely.

Some technical highlights of the project, for those interested:

Safebox runs on Linux, macOS, and Windows, supports both x86 and ARM64 (including Raspberry Pi, Banana Pi, and others), and handles domain/subdomain setup, Let’s Encrypt certificates, DNS configuration, reverse proxy (nginx), and also offers WireGuard-based remote access.

The project is currently in beta, and we’d really appreciate feedback from anyone interested in testing it, whether it’s about usability, stability, features, design, or honestly anything at all. You can find all the info about beta testing on our Discord channel.

If you’d like to try it out, check the Github repo: https://github.com/safeboxnetwork/framework-scheduler

Website: https://safebox.network/

Discord: https://discord.gg/aBP8bz6N8J

Thanks in advance to anyone who gives it a look or shares their thoughts.

[–] drebora@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks again for your suggestion we recently added docker autoinstall. Currently supporting ubuntu, debian and raspbian. https://github.com/safeboxnetwork/framework-scheduler/blob/main/README.md Thanks, and feel free to share any further feedback or remark.

 

Hi everyone, we're mainly looking for feedback and testers for our project, which is currently in beta. We’ve been working on Safebox, an open-source framework that helps you install, manage, and access self-hosted applications such as Home Assistant, Nextcloud, and Jellyfin etc. Safebox runs on Linux, macOS, and Windows (supporting both x86 and ARM64 architectures, even Raspberry Pi, Banana Pi hardware also tested). It manages domain and subdomain setup, Let's Encrypt certificates, DNS configuration, and reverse proxy (nginx). It also includes a Wireguard-based remote access feature and a geo-redundant backup system (currently in development). The project is in beta, and we’re looking for people interested in testing and giving feedback on its usability, stability, features, and really anything else. All information about Safebox and beta testing can be found in our discord channel.

If you’d like to try it out, you can start it with Docker:

docker run --rm -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock safebox/framework-scheduler

Then open: http://localhost:8080/

Website: https://safebox.network/ Github: https://github.com/safeboxnetwork/framework-scheduler Discord: https://discord.gg/aBP8bz6N8J

We’d really appreciate any feedback or ideas for improvement.

 

Hi, my family and I’ve been working on Safebox, an open-source framework that helps you install, manage, and access self-hosted applications such as Home Assistant, Nextcloud, and Jellyfin ect. Safebox runs on Linux, macOS, and Windows (supporting both x86 and ARM64 architectures, even Raspberry Pi, Banana Pi hardwares also tested). It manages domain and subdomain setup, Let's Encrypt certificates, DNS configuration, and reverse proxy (nginx). It also includes a WireGuard-based remote access feature and a geo-redundant backup system (currently in development). The project is in beta, and we’re looking for people interested in testing and sharing feedback. All information about Safebox and beta testing can be found in our Discord channel. If you’d like to try it out, you can start it with Docker:

docker run --rm -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock safebox/framework-scheduler

Then open: http://localhost:8080/

Website: https://safebox.network/ GitHub: https://github.com/safeboxnetwork/framework-scheduler Discord: https://discord.gg/aBP8bz6N8J

We’d really appreciate any feedback or ideas for improvement.

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