this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2023
5 points (100.0% liked)

Operating Systems

3910 readers
1 users here now

All things operating system related, from Windows to Mac to Linux distros and the more obscure.

Subcommunity of Technology.


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

I'm currently on Win11 but I'm getting that familiar Linux itch and want to dual boot a while again. I tend to gravitate towards Ubuntu simply because it's so big and well supported by most things.

I've run Arch in the past but I've gotten too old and lazy for that if I'd be completely honest. I have played with manjaro and endeavour though.. and opensuse tumbleweed, rolling is kind of nice.

Not sure what I'd try out first this time so I figured I'd get some inspiration from you guys!

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] 1993_toyota_camry@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I'm using Gentoo.

If I wanted a smooth no-tinkering experience, I'd use Ubuntu. Or hell, steamos.

[–] Nicbudd@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Pop!_OS. It just works, it's easy, and it makes me enjoy using my computer.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Pop!_OS ᕙ( •̀ ᗜ •́ )ᕗ

[–] wet_lettuce@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

Pop!_OS for life!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] gamma@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago

I'm on EndeavourOS, but my laptop will be moving to Fedora Sericea (Silverblue, but Sway) to try that out.

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Arch Linux at the moment, though I distro hop quite a bit!

When it comes to gaming, I can't really say I've found a distro that "felt" better for gaming, and I've been on a fair amount of them - Fedora (and Nobara), Arch, NixOS, Endeavour, pop!_OS - I haven't noticed a difference. I didn't measure benchmarks because at the end of the day its about what I can perceive, not what I can read from a spreadsheet.

Realistically I think the only difference I ever noticed was with pop there's a Nvidia ISO that has the drivers already included in the live environment, so I get to skip a step post-install.

I find myself just using Flatpaks for gaming stuff (Steam, Bottles, Heroic, etc) these days since I know that I can take those on just about any distro. I've heard that there is some FPS loss from running games through Flatpak, but again I haven't done any benchmarks so I can't confirm nor deny this.

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These days Ubuntu can install the nvidia drivers for you during the install as well if you just click the "install proprietary blabla" so you get a pretty game ready system there as well tbh so I'm starting to feel like a more gaming tweaked version of Ubuntu is a bit redundant?

That's a surprisingly pleasing font by the way!

[–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Grr Lemmy just ate my comment, I guess I have a chance to refine my response a bit now!

Ah, thank you - it's been a while since I used Ubuntu on my main system (Ubuntu was my foray into Linux back in the Hardy Heron days!) but now that you mention it, I do remember seeing that option when I briefly had Ubuntu installed on my old MacBook (which I then moved to Fedora to play around with before using it on my main PC). Having that option was quite nice for the broadcom wireless drivers that those Macs need for WiFi.

That’s a surprisingly pleasing font by the way!

Thanks! I came across it a couple of years ago, and I joked about it at first but it grew on me over time so I purchased (it is a paid font but there is a very similar one called Comic Mono) the font and have been using it in my IDEs and terminals since then! I wouldn't use it everywhere of course, but for a monospace environment its really good and I can't quite put my finger on the "why".

Funnily enough, I've tried to use Comic Code on both Windows and macOS as well and there is something about the FreeType system on Linux that makes the font really excel for me. On Windows the font feels too "thin" and on macOS the font feels too "thick". 10 years ago if you had tried to tell me that I'd enjoy the way fonts look on Linux better than the other two major platforms I would've fell to the floor laughing for a few minutes - I imagine its due to a combination of improvements over FreeType and displays over the years, along with me actually branching out and not just sticking with the default font that happens to be picked for me by whatever I'm using 😅

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TrinitronX@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the past, I had been using Ubuntu LTS releases for my main HTPC. That original install had been upgraded many times, but actually started out as an Ubuntu spin-off called Mythbuntu. Of course since Steam on Linux was first released, Ubuntu was the most well-supported distro at the time, and still technically is (Look in Steam's .local install directory and you'll still find ubuntu12_32, ubuntu12_64 folders which are pre-packaged dependencies & libraries for steam-runtime built against Ubuntu's core libs for each architecture). It ran many games fine, and the added bonus of a distro focused on being an HTPC meant that I could use mythgame as a frontend for emulators, steam, or whatever else needed a launcher. Meanwhile, the main focus of MythTV was being an OSS DVR that supported TV capture cards, commercial skip, and transcoding.

It ran all those things well, except trancoding (no VAAPI, only VDPAU & not many codecs), up to a point when my original Nvidia GT240 card became deprecated by Nvidia's binary blob drivers. Thanks to the version-pinned 340 proprietary drivers not being well supported on newer kernels, I have been forced into a hardware upgrade cycle. Decided to go with AMD this time around, but the first card has some kind of hardware issue (9 times out of 10 after a reboot, the amdgpu driver says the SMU won't init properly... same on windows but no helpful error messages, just doesn't work at all). The card arrived without an OEM box, and seemed suspiciously in used condition although it wasn't sold to me as a used model. Thanks to testing in a rolling-release distro based on Arch, I was able to prove that it wasn't due to software, but instead was a hardware issue. I'm going to send that GPU back and get another one to replace it once prices get less insane.

I tested out various Manjaro LiveCDs to check if it was a software or driver problem, and did get the GPU working about once every 10 reboots. I decided to go with a full install of Manjaro Sway edition to try and test out wayland & a more minimal window manager. I didn't think I'd like it at first, as I'd always avoided using i3wm in the past... but actually it's starting to grow on me and I think I'll try this out as a daily driver for a while. After following some instructions on the Arch wiki to identify missing steam-runtime dependencies and installing them via pacman, everything works, including Proton-based games. Technically Steam is still running under Xwayland, as evidenced by xlsclients output, but it works and seems much snappier than running on Ubuntu with X11.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] suddenlythequietrose@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I've been on pop os for at least 2 years now, been loving it. Most of my gaming is through steam so compatibility issues are the exception, not the rule. It's a bit of a dream come true to play God of War on Linux, it feels like all the stars aligned.

Even when I bork the install by fucking around in the kernel I wind up getting back on pop rather than finally taking the dive into arch.

[–] Xenanthropy@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

SourceMage! It's a source based distro like Gentoo. I've been using it as my main distro for a solid 10 months now, I'm very happy with it! We have flatpak so steam works great, as well as lutris and everything else. Definitely wouldn't recommend it to someone looking for simplicity though!

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Definitely wouldn't recommend it to someone looking for simplicity though!

Or short install times. Compiling KDE takes forever. Or at least it did back when I used SourceMage, years and years ago.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TheNH813@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use Void Linux. I like how much more up to date the libraries and apllications tend to be, it's quite similar to Arch in that regard, as it's a true rolling release just like Arch.

It also tends to be very stable as well, with couple minor issues I had ever experienced got fixes within 48-ish hours. One was hugin not launching, and the other a transition issue between pipewire-media-session and wireplumber being the default.

Void uses runit for service management, and is still multithreaded despite taking a more similar approach to just plain shell scripts, and constantly monitors services. What I like about this is more much simpler services are to write compared to SystemD, and then you just put a simlink to them from /etc/sv/ to /etc/runit/runsvdir/default/ to enable or disable.

Void also uses their own XBPS package system, which operates similar to pacman, and is equally fast. Void is basically a rolling release like Arch, with the latest updates, but instead has a more "classic" system management style, which I for one greatly appreciate.

After nearly a decade of distro hopping, Void is where I landed for at least the past several years, and I see no reason to leave. Just sharing incase someone else out there thinks this sounds like the system for them, and if so, Take a Step Into the Void, it might be what you're looking for. That's what I like about there being so many distros, there's choice to match each one's needs.

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's another one I've heard of but never tried. Sounds pretty nice. Rathet Arch-like in a KISS approach l?

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] winged_fluffy@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm currently on Pop! OS 22.04 LTS. For me it worked out of the box. That installer with the NVidia drivers already included was a dream, so I didn't have to set up anything special. I did end up preferring the KDE desktop over Gnome, so I just went screw it and installed KDE plasma on top of it. It's been my daily driver like this for years.

Though, honesty requires me to mention that over the 4-ish years I've been using it they pushed a kernel update twice which killed the nvidia drivers, causing you to be unable to boot to the desktop. Solution was as simple as just rebooting into the previous kernel for a while and waiting for an update which fixes it, but still...

Other than that, pretty happy with it and I'm unlikely to change anytime soon.

[–] ezri@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I tried PopOS but had several issues immediately, including the display flickering despite updating my Nvidia driver. Other than that it just felt like a somewhat worse Ubuntu to me, so I quickly went back to Ubuntu

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] ostrosco@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I've been using Fedora for the past few years and have been pretty happy with it. It updates at just the right cadence for me where I get new stuff pretty quickly but I'm not on a rolling release.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I tend to gravitate towards Ubuntu simply because it’s so big and well supported by most things. I’ve run Arch in the past but I’ve gotten too old and lazy for that if I’d be completely honest. I have played with manjaro and endeavour though… and opensuse tumbleweed, rolling is kind of nice.

Are you me? Did you also use BlackArch for a while, and still use Rainmeter? :P

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ubuntu does make things easier.

I had everything set up the way I wanted it in Ubuntu the other day.. but something still itched a bit so now I'm on Tumbleweed and feeling better. :D

Though Diablo 4 tends to crash after playing it for a while.. not sure if I'd have the same issue in Ubuntu or not, might have to triple boot for a bit just to try it out. I really do want to stay here in chameleon land though so it would probably be better to just try to find the cause of the crashing.

I do think this is a pretty common thing among us linux geeks though, never really feeling content and just wanting to try everything. :)

Never did try BlackArch or Rainmeter though!

I've played around with plenty of distros though.. Slackware, Redhat, Gentoo, Arch, *buntu, SuSE (before they split into openSUSE), openSUSE, Manjaro, Endeavour OS and probably a bunch more that I can't even remember but those are probably the ones I've played around with the most.

[–] sailsperson@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's my config (no hardware):

  • OS: Arch
  • Kernel: linux-zen
  • Window Manager: i3-gaps
  • Compositor: picom

I've been running this for several years now across multiple PCs, all with different hardware, including Nvidia and AMD for graphics, and Intel and AMD for CPU - and it's been working really well for me right up until recently.

After this paragraph, I will talk about the issues I've exeprienced as a gamer using my particular config. Please note that it's just a couple of minor issues, and the rest of the experience has been more than wonderful, convenient, functional, and beloved, and I do recommed Arch as a gaming setup as someone who's been running it to play games for several years in a row.

The most recent Steam Next Fest (June 2023) has revealed several demos that behaved like they launched, i.e. Steam changed my status to "in-game", changed the Start button in library, updated the playtime properly, etc., yet the game did not, in fact launch at all. I managed to play the affected demos when I switched to the KDE Plasma desktop environment on the same PC... and back on the same config after that as well.

I would consider that a one-time error that was gone by, essentially, reloading the X server, but there's been another consistent issue that I have only managed to observe in this i3+picom config. Ever since Steam's most recent UI beta, the floating elements, such as the buttons that let you install the game's demo, wishlist it, or navigate the store by the tags applied to the same game, all of which appear when you're hovering your mouse pointer over the game's thumbnail in Steam, are basically ignored; when clicking any of them, the click registers on the element that is supposed to be underneath the element you're actually trying to click: for example, if you're hovering your mouse pointer over a game and want to click the green wide "Install Demo" button, which is floating over another game's thumbnail, you'll click that thumbnail instead and open its Steam page. This particular issue persists between full PC reboots, X server restarts, i3/picom restarts, etc., and never occured in XFCE or KDE Plasma.

As I haven't been using any of the store features in Steam prior to the June's Steam Next Fest, I failed to notice any of the above, but now, I can't deny that it's been annoying. I really like my current configuration for everything I'm doing at my PCs: it's great for my work, it's even great for my gaming, it's great for my leasure, and I don't want to ditch it, because I have already tried many other tiling window managers, and i3-gaps is the one that stuck with me the most.

Now, I know there's sway, which is supposed to be a drop-in alternative, i.e. I can use my i3 config with it no problem, but sway uses the Wayland compositor, so I can't run it as easily: I'll have to set up the SDDM display manager instead of the dead-simple lightdm in order to keep the convenient multi-user setup I have, and probably sacrifice some of the performance my GTX 1080 has been giving with the proprietary drivers (I know, disgusting, but it has worked the best for my hardware as compared to the nouveau, unfortunately). I guess it's just time for me to tinker again.

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You know.. at least for me, I think I'm past the stage of being horrified over having to use proprietary drivers. I know it's not as nice as a pure open source system, but still.. it gets my system to run better, it's free and it's still Linux. So in my opinion it's a good tradeoff still.

I do get why purists would hate it though and I wish you'd get the same performance with a completely free system.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] DaveedMee@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago

I use Arch with KDE Plasma for that comfy desktop environment feel but switch to BSPWM ever so often for productivity or to use my pc as just a media center

[–] Kaldo@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really should have known better than to expect a consensus in a topic like this 😁 Ask 10 linuxheads which disto is the best and you'll get 12 different answers

[–] nlm@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Well that's what's fun though isn't it? :D

I ended up installing Kubuntu 20.04 for now.. I was going to install Pop but they require a 1GB EFI partition and I didn't have the patience to move my Windows partition around to resize it so.. Kubuntu it is.

Knowing myself I'll probably distro hop in a few days again.

Trying out different distros are almost as much fun as actually using them (probably more fun at times!)

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›