No of course not. The bourgeois state will continue to externalize the costs of buying off a majority of the working classes in the imperial core. Conditions will deteriorate in core adjacent nations though and those will experience revolution in our lifetime.

nah

Nope, no imperial core nation has ever fallen or came close to a socialist revolution only semiperifery (russia, spain) or perifery countries (china, cuba, ) have had those

Not me, but then again Lenin didn't think it would happen for them either

The settlers would sooner go fascist and genocide themselves before they'd ever accept a proper revolution. I don't think I'd want to see or live through what the Anglo-dominated west would consider 'revolution'; not with a lot more comrades I don't have, or a lot more ammo.

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Its difficult to say. A better world is possible, and its worth believing in and fighting for. I worry though that that obviously true and beautiful fact - that a better world is possible - is so beyond the comprehension of the average American. That idea has been driven out of public consciousness by the largest and most pervasive propganda apparatus ever. I believe communism will win, but I'm not optimistic about the near term revolutionary potential of the US. So much here seems waited to go toward barbarism. But the decline of the US will be a major boon for revolution around the world

Probably not, things have to get so unbelievably bad for the value of a revolution to outweigh the value of doing nothing and letting capitalism continue (the lure that things might get better, right?). Things also have to be really bad in the place where you are too, because so long as the facade of normalcy exists (even if it is degraded), then people will naturally come to the conclusion that such things cannot happen to them, and that they shouldn't worry.

For example, if the USA managed to provide fuel, electricity, internet, and treats (even if somewhat intermittently) right up until it collapsed, no significant portion of the population would want a revolution until after that all got taken away, and didn't have the promise of being returned.

On a long enough timescale it would happen, but climate change cuts it short. Imo the west continues its steady march toward open fascism (the wars they start will only exacerbate climate change) and then industrial society collapses.

I wont hold my breath that it'll happen in my lifetime. I also won't discount the speed at which the West accelerates it own rot.

Edit: I'll keep hope though. I'll remain optimistic about it.

the most youd get in your lifetime is country slowly becoming more pro union, and not outright uprising though. how far each individual union pushes will depend how strong each individual union is. youd need the cpuntries to get into utterdesparation mode for outright revolution, which is not very likely.

my luck is when im 90 something cool will happen

shit has to get bad before it gets good

I feel like I'm living on borrowed time and that I'm only barely keeping the wolf from the door, so to speak, so I doubt I'll see the revolution in my time, especially in my shithole country but I'd say that if we assume that most people here have another 60-odd years on this earth that collectively we are pretty likely to see a revolution kick off somewhere in the west.

When it does happen, be sure to send my regards.

Thinking about it, in the event of collapse, there is an astounding number of guns in the US, and most of those are owned by essentially brownshirts. BUT, they’re still working class. Will be a matter of how soon can bonds of solidarity form between common people, and will that happen faster than right wing movements can coalesce around killing out groups

I think that if I live to my 80s, I will definitely have seen critically-destabilizing resource shortages in the West.

You could look to similar countries for inspiration. Donbas is an example, it broke away as part of a civil war but enjoyed popular support. It broke down along ethnic lines as the country used Russophobia to fuel its nationalit project, but of course had underlying political economic foundations.

Are there any Western countries that could be Ukrainified? Forced down a path of poverty by the others, turned into a peripheral country until the stresses crack and the place breaks along various fault lines? The US is already breaking down what sovereignty Europe has and eating its lunch. Which country will fail the hardest? It will surely be eaten by the vultures, foreign capital brought in to use them as cheap labor for something that's high-cost in the US. You know how Google fired its entire US Python team to pay Germans less instead? Europe has a large white collar-focused workforce that will cost less and less over time so long as financialized costs don't weigh them down faster. Tech has been desperate to pay its workers less, that's what all the STEM education and new attempts at imperialist trade deals pushes are about.

My money is on one of the countries that's already mistreated, like Greece. Or one that's just less rich but still beholden to the imperialist pact. Like Spain.

I've focused entirely on Europe because it's undergoing dangerous changes. There's more to the West than them. But I think the other countries you could throw in there aside from the US might be sites of "pink" revolutions and I don't missy how that will go down because it will depend on the strength of imperialist forces at the time.

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