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[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago
[-] flan@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

WHAT IS THAT

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

OOTL but why is bukele praised so much by far right groups and such?

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Bitcoin? Arresting a shit ton of people? Being an insufferable dork? All appeal to the right

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

But like they actually think the dude ended crime 😂

[-] Bl00dyH3ll@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Wtf is this dystopian sh!t?

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[-] Neptium@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Saw a reel (TikTok? Shortform video?) about a Guy that was larping as a NEET in a tropical country.

And one comment really summed up my thoughts: go back home and get a job lmao.

Why do these people celebrate being leeches to society and seemingly aren't self-aware?

They get our scientists and engineers meanwhile we get this.

They're not sending us their best folks

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Why do these people celebrate being leeches to society and seemingly aren’t self-aware?

Because a person's goal in a capitalist system is to do nothing while getting everything. To ascend from the exploited to the exploiter. It's wrapped in rosy language such as "passive income", but that's what it is. If a person can be a neet outside their parents' basement (which seems to be the case in what you describe), one must ask where's the money coming from

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[-] Fishroot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have been seeing a lot of life-hacks about how pensioners move to south east Asia with their cash because the low cost of living and also to bulk buy properties and live on passive income.

You are going to have that problem with countries with questionable economic sovereignty (look at the Philippines in particular) instead of becoming a state with possibilities to do local development, you have oversea entities coming there to suck out the resources, labour, wealth and talent out of them and leave the place to die

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[-] Oppo@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I hope you all have a nice week :D

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the future where tech is getting worse all the time.

Google was garbage so I used a chatbot for the very first time. I asked it why the actor Ken Howard left the tv series "Crossing Jordan". He started out in the main cast but by season 4 (2005) he only appeared in one episode and then he had left the series. The chatbot produced total crap that seemed real.

Ken Howard left the show Crossing Jordan in 2006 due to his starring role in the Broadway revival of the Pulitzer Prize winning play '1776'. Howard had already been appearing in theatre productions while working on the show, but the producers of Crossing Jordan allowed him to take part in the musical as long as he was able to make it back for shooting.

However, once the show became a hit, it was difficult for the producers to accommodate his schedule. In addition, Howard was offered the chance to play the lead role in the film adaptation of 'The White Countess' which he also could not pass up. Ultimately, he had to make a difficult decision between continuing his role in Crossing Jordan and pursuing the new opportunities.

  • Howard appeared in the 1972 movie "1776". But there was no ~2006 Broadway revival of "1776". The revival happened in 2022. Howard died in 2016.

  • "The White Countess" came out in 2005 but Howard had nothing to do with it.

[-] Darkerseid@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago
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[-] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Started watching the X-Files to balance the politics in my life and so far I'm liking it

But I'm a huge space/alien nerd, so

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[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Is it OK if I post the same thing here that I posted in the hexbear megathread? I'm just wanna do it right now. These feelings are hitting me hard. DOnt worry though, I'm about to go to bed.

The problem I'm having with the back and forth with libs is my inherent empathy. I feel for them and want to reach out with them. I can't (Usually) just aggressively dunk and move on.

The worst yet for me was the thing earlier with the guy who can't engage with political memes at all because he thinks they all MIGHT be Russian social media infiltration. I started getting sincerely and genuinely invested in being concerned for their mental health. I actually had like, a continuous low level panic attack going. My body was tense and nervous.

I know the response here is going to be to tell me to just log off and stop getting invested in this, but I really just wanted to vent about how all this is making me feel. I want to help these people out of the bubbles they are in. When they use thought terminating cliches to avoid thinking, it upsets me because god I WANT THEM TO THINK. For their sake.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's hard isn't it? I have similar instincts, although I can turn it off when I'm being trolled. Some people don't want to be reached. They aren't talking in good faith. They aren't interested in what you have to say. They know what they are and are happy about it.

You might get hurt if you try to fix everyone. It's okay not to fix them. It's okay not to dunk on them, either. It's okay to say your piece and leave them to think about it. They'll either grow and develop. Or they won't. Liberalism provides an answer to every rebuttal. It might be a shit answer, but it has one. Sometimes planting the seed of doubt is enough.

There's a YouTube series that you might find helpful for reframing the way that you see the people you interact with and how you engage with them: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJA_jUddXvY7v0VkYRbANnTnzkA_HMFtQ . This video in particular may be useful to know what you're up against: https://youtu.be/CaPgDQkmqqM . I hope this helps and I hope you don't get too exhausted.

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Oh I've seen alt right playbook plenty, its very good, but thank you very much anyway.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

You're welcome.

One thing that I have to do so as not to get drawn in is not so much touching grass but sorting by local by default and sorting by subscribed manually (and not subscribing to the news comms that attract liberals). That's still the same kind of non-solution of 'just don't participate'. But at least it gives you some control over not sorting by all, so you can browse but limit how much you're exposed to people who might exhaust you.

Another thing is sorting by new by default and popping in to new threads but not engaging. Then sort by hot/active/top XYZ to see which threads got a lot of comments. If you engage in the most active threads after comrades have made the trolls 'show their cards', it might be easier to identify who is best to avoid. Someone who deliberately misinterprets others isn't going to be worth your time.

That doesn't necessarily make it easier for you not to try to convert them: would you be able to not engage in the first place if you already knew the person was insincere?

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Probably not. I went back and forth today with someone who was pretty obviously bad faith, but at least my empathy wasnt going off in that case because I didnt feel bad for them or anything.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

In that case, at least know that while you're talking to one person in particular, you might still be reaching a wider audience that is paying attention, even if they don't engage.

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