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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Wander@yiffit.net to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

Let's say you find a subreddit with a very interesting guide that contains no private information.

What's the legality of copy / pasting that text over here? And if it is reworded, manually or with chat gpt?

The assumption here is that it would be done manually without scraping.

Edit: it looks like Reddit does not help the copyright and there wouldn't be massive issues if we created a community to copy over posts with useful guides and tutorials. I can't create it since I'm not on lemmy.world and wouldn't have time to moderate it, but I would contribute if a community like that existed.

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[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

This isn’t a college course, and I doubt any random person on the internet is going to sue you.

Why don’t you just copy paste it wholesale and just give them credit? Don’t pretend it’s your own work.

[-] Wander@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

I'm just trying to determine whether this could cause problem for instance owners.

Since it seems that Reddit does not hold the copyright we might want to have a Lemmy community where we can post such guides and tutorials, giving attribution.

[-] Kratos_Aurion@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago
[-] Wander@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, but lemmit simply posts new stuff in chronological order. I'm talking about re-posting the countless good guides and tutorials so that searching on Lemmy can give better results.

[-] seeCseas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not a lawyer but I know a little bit!

So the Reddit user agreement (Effective June 19, 2023. Last Revised April 18, 2023) says:

  1. Your Content The Services may contain information, text, links, graphics, photos, videos, audio, streams, or other materials (“Content”), including Content created with or submitted to the Services by you or through your Account (“Your Content”). We take no responsibility for and we do not expressly or implicitly endorse, support, or guarantee the completeness, truthfulness, accuracy, or reliability of any of Your Content.

By submitting Your Content to the Services, you represent and warrant that you have all rights, power, and authority necessary to grant the rights to Your Content contained within these Terms. Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.

You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:

When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.

What this means (I think) is that while reddit is forever allowed to use whatever you posted in any way, even selling and monetising it, the author retains copyright of their post/comments. So if you copy/paste something over from reddit, the author can claim copyright infringement, but not reddit.

Please don't treat this as legal advice!

[-] Wander@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Vupperware@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Also not a lawyer, but I cannot recall a single instance of an online text post being the catalyst of a copyright lawsuit. AFAIK, there are deliberate steps one must take in order to protect their intellectual property. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

[-] DeadGemini@waveform.social 17 points 1 year ago

Who cares? Just post it. The knowledge is what's important, not some rando author's karma count.

Credit content creators, link to original sources, and frame your copypasta as an analysis (like you're citing specific areas of text to add to it in some way). You could even group together various related posts on a subject as a comparative piece.

[-] Jongaros@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Everything in the world is legal unless someone goes to court over it.

[-] Shartacus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Most of Reddits content is stolen off of Reddit. Then the reposted Reddit content is stolen by buzzfeed.

[-] DrQuint@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The hell?

99.99% of content on reddit is stolen. What do you think something like /r/WhitePeopleTwitter is about if not content theft from another large platform, with first come, karma served. No one, not a single person there, is ever even concerned with wether or not permission was requested and granted. Heck, not even guides are safe from this. Go visit /r/piracy, and check their wiki. Think of how cool, useful and well formatted it is. Appreciate it for a bit, right before being informed that even this was initially copied nearly verbatim from another online resource. One that, ironically, is banned from being posted on Reddit.

It's a link aggregator, that's the category of website it falls under.

And so is this one.

Steal and credit. Link the original directly if you feel too bad. Reword after research, but do it manually if it concerns you. You will be doing more than due diligence. Because if no one ever stole, we'd basically have no content.

[-] Lorela@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A significant amount of subs were text only. I get the majority of Reddit was memes, pics, videos and linking to content off site, but there's still a wealth of text only posts covering thousands of niche topics.

[-] Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

🤷, as long as you give attribution, it doesn't matter in my opinion.

[-] Khazram@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

!archive@lemmy.world is a community that reposts noteworthy Reddit posts onto the Fediverse so you presumably wouldn’t have any issues as long you’re giving credit to the OP.

[-] Wander@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

Omg, thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for.

[-] darknyght00@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

Notalawyer but I say copy everything. Strip the bones of reddit like a school of piranhas for anything useful (do credit original authors when possible). Fuck that Steve guy for hamstringing one of the most ubiquitous knowledge repositories since the Alexandria Library

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Lawyer or not, it doesn’t matter. Your laws aren’t my laws. It’s the internet. You can copy anything you want.

[-] Jeff@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It is crazy that we live at the same time as that failure. He legit owns that embarrassing title. His parents must be proud they created that. Lol

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Users content is owned by the users, Reddit's TOS just gives them an unrestricted license to use it. So in theory, you would need the user's permission to copy it elsewhere, but who the fuck would do that?

IE: giver, buddeh

[-] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

The posts are still protected under copyright, the easest solution here is to just link to archive.org and have their legal team handle any problems.

[-] Kalcifer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Unless a post contains a license that states otherwise, I think reposting their content should be fine.

Obligatory I am not a lawyer

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] crossal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

So the useful information is available here?

[-] Shartacus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit has been archived places other than Reddit

[-] crossal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe people want to remain within Lemmy

[-] klyde@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I mean it's the same as finding information for homework. Find it and rewrite it in your own words.

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