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[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Am I only the only one who thinks comes off like "men arent like women, and therefore broken"?

Not having to spend an hour discussing my feelings is actually one of the things I like about my friendships. I don't want long deep hugs, they make me uncomfortable. And I definitely don't want someone opening up to me about their life struggles. That's not the kind of friendship I like or want.

I guess that makes me broken!

I mean it does because those things only make you uncomfortable because you've been conditioned your entire life to feel that way just because you're a man.

Those things are basic human companionship.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

So not only am I somehow fundamentallly broken, I've also been duped by society and I'm too stupid to even realize it?

You couldn't be any more insulting if you tried.

[-] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

Not quite. To me, it’s more like “men don’t even have the option of building relationships like women do, and that’s not healthy. Society is broken.”

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

But they didn't say that. They flat out said "men are broken".

[-] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

You seem to have stopped reading once you got through the headline and missed the entire article written afterwards.

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

Surely you have something more constructive to say than a sneering quip?

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

100% mate.

All my best friendships have been 99% ripping into each other and telling funny stories. Like I don't tell shitty stories about work because I lived it once and I don't want to live it again. No one else does either. Unless it's to vent about someone because I'm angry. But I do tell funny stories about work.

Having said that even in the most masculine environments when anyone has had an issue or been pushed too fair the guys always rally and pick them back up.

Day to day shit is your own problem. The once in a month or few months is our problem and I'm here for you.

You boss was mean to you. You want to bounce other careers around or see if I can find someone to hire you? No, well grow up everyone's boss is shit. Either leave or deal with it.

Your misses just cheated on you. Right come on I'll get the guys and we'll go to the pub, she's a cunt you're better off without her.

Also hand shakes are fucking great. I usually go for a shake and a quick hug. But the handshake is better.

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[-] Nelots@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

The comments at the bottom of the article though... I really hate people sometimes.

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[-] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

TIL my friendships with my bros are about 5x healthier than average.

I read this thought it sounded super melodramatic and exaggerated. I guess it’s just more rare to have deep friendships with the boys. Looking back it got me thinking that I might be the weird one with friends that have deep conversations and know/worry about the others mental health.

So i guess, to any guys that read this and felt like it could have been written about them: go out on a limb and talk to your friends. Chances are they want/need a more meaningful friendship too. They are also probably similarly apprehensive about opening up.

[-] Wanderer@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm with you. Guys are much easier to talk to about a lot of things.

Though girls are easier in some ways.

Talk to a girl about an insecurity and she will beat you with it. Worried about being small oh just join a gym even if you go all the time. Worried about being short, oh I wouldn't ever dream of dating someone shorter than me but there are girls out there who are shorter than you so try with them. Worried about low pay, oh you will get paid more in the future and then you will have worth. Anything like that girls are awful.

Missing something like a dead relative or ex. Girls tend to be better with that.

If you feel sad or talk to girls if you feel vulnerable or want help solving a problem talk to boys.

[-] Deca@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I wonder if this is one of the reasons why MTF vastly outnumber FTM transitions

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[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 1 year ago

I still get sad at the surprise women have when I move before they do

Is this actually a thing? I've always moved away from everyone's path and never noticed anyone feeling surprised by that. And from every man I've ever walked with, I can only remember one who I noticed didn't make room for other people.

[-] threadloose@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

Oh, it's totally a thing. I'm a woman and short, so I'm below the eye line of most men, and I've had men plow right over me on crowded sidewalks or at events. Most men expect the woman to yield in that situation and they'll get annoyed if you don't. It actually is surprising when a man moves out of the way, though I don't know if it shows on my face.

[-] whats_a_refoogee@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Your two reasons, being below the eye line and being a woman are incongruent. If you're below the eye line and they don't notice you, then how are they expecting you to yield?

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I am glad this perspective is being presented. I think ftm people have a unique view of how difficult it can be to be a man that throws light on a lot of men's issues.

I hope this person can present more along these lines. I think I could come up with hundreds of questions.

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[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Men are also different from women. Not just physically but mentally. Part of the problem the writer had was not understanding how male friendships work and expecting a mirror of female friendships. Certainly it can be lonelier as a man but in some ways it's just the way we are.

You ain't never had a friend.

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

in some ways it's just the way we are.

Is it? What makes you think that our loneliness is inherent to us? How is it inherent to us?

[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I'm just saying that men in general have a much easier time being alone. I don't think we should always be alone, but more men than women have the ability to be solitary and happy at the same time.

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[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bro, I would do anything for long, deep hugs. I am unlucky enough to never have been hugged by anyone.

[-] Osirus@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

How is that even possible.

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[-] bouh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The problem is not about you. It's about your ability to accept another man who wants a "female" friendship. And apparently you don't want any of that, which makes you part of the problem.

[-] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

I'm talking about a woman who wanted to physically be a man but is still mentally programmed as a woman could not understand male friendships. It's not that men don't have friends or deep friendships. It's just that they're usually different from the opposite gender.

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[-] Ironfist@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

well, women also get more attention therefor they are less lonely. Just look at dating apps: women get flooded with likes and messages, but men... good luck getting a like and if you get one, good luck getting a conversation where you are not the only one putting some effort.

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