Microsoft shuts down Cortana app on Windows 11 : technology

[-] backgroundcow@lemmy.world 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cortana is/was by far the best name of the digital assistants - probably because it was created by sci-fi story writers rather than a marketing department. They should just have upgraded her with the latest AI tech and trained her to show the same kind of sassy personality as in the games and it would have been perfect.

Who in their right mind thinks "Bing copilot" is a better name? It makes me picture something like the blow-up autopilot from Airplane!

[-] sic_1@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Cortana was a great name also because in Halo she turned evil, which is fitting for an MS product. Bing copilot gives me strong Clippy vibes.

[-] addie@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Bungie Studios had a habit of naming their AIs after mythological French swords; Durandal in Marathon, and Cortana in Halo. Microsoft ought to name their new AI assistant Hauteclaire or Joyeuse or something else that follows the theme, but I very much suspect that it's going to be named by a committee of marketing execs. Much more likely to find scholars and poets developing software than in the C-suite.

[-] stigmata@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I agree. At first I thought the goal was to get rid of an assistant in general, but just renaming it to something worse is confusing.

[-] PurpleTentacle 11 points 1 year ago

I generally agree with you, and Microsoft has always been notoriously awful at naming just about anything. The still are.

But Cortana's reputation has been ruined to the point where there's no coming back from it. It was a good name, but a lousy product. From a marketing perspective, it's far, far, easier to start from scratch with a better product than to try to repair the reputation of the old one.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bing copilot gives me Clippy vibes altogether.

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[-] salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A "sassy personality" just puts the assistant into the uncanny valley for me. I prefer it to just do its job and not try to fool me into anthropomorphizing it.

But the name was pretty cool, though, as noted by another commenter, not the easiest to pronounce.

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[-] sadreality@kbin.social 73 points 1 year ago

I was told I can't remove it becuaee it is critical to windows system....

[-] not_awake@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

The only Windows update I'm gonna be happy to install asap

[-] zaph@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Don't get too excited. They're just doing it so it doesn't get in the way of the Ai they'll be putting on there.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

Entirely unsurprising to virtually everyone. Both them and Google release a ton of shovelware, just to fill a gap in the market, and it's never about being the best. It's always about being the first, no matter how poor the product's design or quality are

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 33 points 1 year ago

They are preparing to shovel chatgpt with a new name called copilot. Will soon be on every machine running windows 11.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

That would be a pretty stupid thing to call it, since they already have a product called copilot which is a coding assist tool powered by chat gpt.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The new tool will be called bing copilot. And GitHub Copilot doesn't really appear to be powered by ChatGPT since it came out of preview last year.

They have an upcoming tool called GitHub Copilot X which is powered by ChatGPT so you can ask it questions and all that.

Imo it's not the stupidest name since it will tie the two products together.

Cortana was cooler even though I have and couldn't ever try it.

P.S. the X in GitHub Copilot X is fortunately a placeholder.

[-] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Copilot uses codex, it’s another OpenAI model but you can generally consider chatgpt to be a superset of that

[-] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now that games run so well on Linux I have pretty much shut down windows in it's entirety from my life. It has been a long time coming and it feels great!

I keep a Windows partition around for special cases but I have not had to use it in a long time. Starfeild will probably force me into it for the first time in a long time. The whole Windows experience is insulting to anyone with any self respect. It has not always been this way.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even for non-gamers, the magic dust that keeps many Windows games usable on Linux can also be used for non-game Windows apps and everyone can benefit from those compatibility leaps and bounds.

If you're one of those people who like Linux but still need to have a Windows install to run That One App for work or whatever, WINE/Proton/etc. may be of use to you.

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[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Are there still games that just don't run on linux? I messed around with it like 6 years ago but didn't dig too deep, because my main 3 games were the ones that didn't run on linux.

[-] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Destiny 2 comes to mind. Bungie has indicated there's 0 interest in making it compatible with Linux ever.

Usually if it can't run on Linux it's because of kernel level anti-cheat. The vast majority of Steam's library works out of the box with Proton nowadays.

[-] mihnt@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Roblox doesn't run on Linux at the moment because the devs have blocked proton and wine. Which, well, pisses me off because I want to put Linux on my daughter's PC.

[-] Version@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, usually games with anti cheat, like Destiny 2. Although it’s way better nowadays, mostly thanks to Valve.

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[+] Spliffman1@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] Cheshire@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Don't get your hopes up.

Microsoft is now working on Windows Copilot, a new sidebar for Windows 11 that is powered by Bing Chat and can control Windows settings, answer questions, and lots more.

They're already working on a successor.

[-] BluesF@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

I can't wait to ask my copilot to change my screen brightness setting only to have it hallucinate a request to share all of my porn with my mother via email.

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 26 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

A new update is rolling out for Cortana that simply disables the digital assistant three years after Microsoft also discontinued its Cortana apps for iOS and Android.

If you attempt to launch Cortana on Windows 11 you’ll now be met with a notice about how the app is deprecated and a link to a support article on the change.

It was deeply integrated into the Windows 10 taskbar, with support for voice commands, reminders, and the ability to open applications.

Microsoft then dropped Cortana from the Windows 11 taskbar and first boot experience, but kept the standalone app until this week.

Ultimately, Cortana struggled to compete with rivals like Alexa or Google Assistant, despite a large redesign for iOS and Android.

The fate of Cortana was largely linked to Microsoft’s failures with Windows Phone, and Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella admitted in 2019 that Cortana had fallen behind competitors.

I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Clippy 3.0 incoming...

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dig a shallow grave next to Windows Phone, Zune, and IE. C'mon guys, you need to catch up to the size of Google's graveyard.

[-] DonCronkhonker@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

RIP Zune. I still have both of mine in my office and they were actually awesome to use.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Do they still work? I hear the collector's market is kinda hot.

[-] DonCronkhonker@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Both of them still work! One is a black 32 gb original Zune. The other one is the Platinum Zune HD, which, imo, was ahead of it's time. If I remember, I'll take a pic of both of them working and update this post :)

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[-] Doorknob@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I still have a Lumia 930 in my drawer with WP 8.1. It was such a wonderful OS to use in look and feel. Had Cortana (alpha) on it too.

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[-] mtcerio@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Still can't uninstall it

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Man I'm so out of the loop, I had no idea what Cortana was and thought Windows was finally shutting down all instances of Encarta. (It looks like Encarta did live until around 2008, which does surprise me)

[-] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

They fail at every attempt to innovate

[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

That's not true! In the 90s the Sidewinder input devices were sometimes really good! The strategic commander never happened, and I definitely didn't buy it, stop asking!

But the FF joysticks and the gamepad were really good.

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[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 11 points 1 year ago

ripbozo

[-] wrath-sedan@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Master Chief isn’t going to like this…

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Waited until after WAN Show.

Pussies.

[-] sugarfree@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Did Cortana consent to this? Maybe she'll find her way back on her own..

[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Now kill Cortana in Halo 7

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[-] doctor_han@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Microsoft's "Edge" was Project Spartan at one point wasn't it? Probably would have confused a lot of people if it came out that way but would've been pretty cool.

[-] Venicon@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Such a missed opportunity. I loved Windows Phone and Cortana was good enough at the time but now with Bing AI I wonder what Cortana could really have been.

[-] emptyother@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

They'll shut down their Bing AI too, as soon as they fail to make it an advertising platform. Doesn't matter if customers find it useful, if it cant earn them ad money.

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[-] ULTIMATEDEAD@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Copilot" aka AI-Manipulation-Brainwash-pilot

[-] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Next…Microsoft kills the popups to search with the new Bing AI, and makes it so you do not accidentally bring up their curated news feed that flies in form the left side on Windows 11.

[-] Thief@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 year ago

Hey copilot, what is virus.zip that is on my desktop.

[-] xengi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wegen do they shut down windows 11?

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