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Basically the title.

For me, a dense model around 20b, with an additional engram table of 10-20b, or a sparse MoE around 80b would be amazing.

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[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

30-35B or just under seems perfect to me.

[–] fancy_pants@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago

Something that would make good use of a 128GB spark. GPT-OSS-120b is good but shows its age

[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Flash next 125b is genuinely amazing, I hope to see 4.0 of the same size.

[–] tpWinthropeIII@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Agree, and upvoted.

Another good size would be 160 gb for 96 gb vram systems. After that I would like to see 225 to 250 gb.

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Another 35B-A3B MoE or similar would be nice...

FYI, Yandex released an 80B MoE base model (i.e. not instruction tuned!) recently: https://huggingface.co/yandex/AliceAI-Foundation-80B-A3B-Base -- haven't experimented with it personally though.

[–] robber@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

I hope an instruction tuned will be released as well.

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They've changed the license with Qwen 4, starting with 3.8-next. So I probably won't be using any further releases

[–] fluxx@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

What are the significant changes? Requiring attribution or something more sinister?

[–] BeefAndPoultry@lemmus.org 5 points 6 days ago

32GB RAM and 8GB VRAM here, so 35b a3b is about my maximum, maybe with added n-grams

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

27B dense was a good size for 3.8, but I'm guessing they're going to add a few B parameters in order to make it noticeably better.

[–] BeefAndPoultry@lemmus.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If they can make the KV cache size scale more efficiently with many tokens, like DeepSeek 4.1 Flash fitting 1 million tokens in 890MB, it might give them enough room to add a couple billion parameters of weights and still fit well in 32GB GPUs

[–] robber@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not necessarly, I'd say. We've seen many releases with multiple sizes and the 27B class has been around since at least the Gemma3 times.

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Well, it's just a guess. But also Gemma4 increased to 31B, so I think there's a possibility that Qwen does the same.