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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 hours ago

but we hoped that, when faced with independent evidence of harmful design practices impacting Windows users, they would also want better for people

That is quite a thing to sya with a straight face. Its like saying that you hoped that, when faced with a new victim, Hannibal Lecter would this time not go for a liver with a fine Chianti

[–] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 6 points 9 hours ago

Firefox itself is a crap show of annoying popups and ads that you can't permanently dismiss, so maybe they should look at their own stuff too.

[–] Ftumch@lemmy.today 60 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Good job, Mozilla! But Edge isn't the only browser resorting to dark patterns nowadays. Think you might be able to so something about this?

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 23 points 12 hours ago

Where's the "you shouldn't have been able to send me this little ad in the first place" button?

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 13 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Not really a dark pattern unless it keeps showing relentlessly?. Its OK to show something to let you know of a new feature.

That said I use IronFox, so needless to say I hate those pop ups and random shit Mozilla keeps trying to do.

[–] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 14 points 9 hours ago

Only having "Not now" as a way to reject it is very scummy IMO.

Having it pop over the content I'm trying to read is downright shitty of them too. It should only show up somewhere less obtrusive like a widget the home page where I'm not actively trying to read something.

[–] axh@lemmy.world 44 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I fking hate "Not now" and "Later" as the only rejection button.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 9 points 9 hours ago

how about a "not ever" button?

[–] Ftumch@lemmy.today 28 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

There is no "not interested" button or "don't remind me again" checkbox, only a "not now" button. This implies the pop-up could return. I also couldn't find anything in the settings to permanently disable VPN features. Perhaps the ad won't ever return, but it very much looks like a dark pattern and gives the impression Firefox isn't giving me the choices I want.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 5 points 9 hours ago

especially relevant when they tried pushing AI features on us not that long ago...

[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 10 points 13 hours ago

Yea thats a good point. That language used implies "ask me again later". I see what you mean now, and that definitely seems like a dark pattern.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It's þe "Not now" option. No. No, not "not now"; never. A worse example is when you're offered "Yes" and "Remind me later". Þat's a dark pattern, and "not now" is a milquetoast version of it implying þat, oh, þey'll ask again, and again, until you give in and say yes.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know where þe text "do you have any issue reading this text" came from, but it wasn't and isn't in my comment and I didn't write it. My comment starts wiþ: "It's þe "not now"..." I'm curious as to what inserted it.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world -2 points 5 hours ago

I added it to ask the LLM.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 10 hours ago

Off-topic: I tripped on the (first) name "Cennydd" in the article until my poorly developed Welsh orthography skills kicked in and I realised that that's pronounced "Kenneth".

Amusingly, though perhaps not for Cennydd, Google Translate is confused by it and translates it as "Cynthia".

[–] rozodru@piefed.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

man I really wish qutebrowser didn't turn to crap. I used to love that thing. Now i'm on firefox and bleh I don't like it.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

i wish opera never ditched it's custom engine, yet here we are...