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[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 6 hours ago

I bet this makes the game worse, but i suppose it could go either way

[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Really the game I want to play is helldivers before they nerfed all the fun out of it.

[–] grranibal@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 days ago (4 children)

What happened to helldivers?

[–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Nothing. Well, not what they are complaining about anyway. Helldivers does have problems, but they just want to use unbalanced super weapons until they get bored and never play it again because of the lack of balance.

[–] Denalduh@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

They nerfed all the fun out of it.

[–] TammyTobacco@sh.itjust.works 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's a fully PvE game, but the devs kept finding any fun, strong weapon and nerfing them for 'balance'. But then that just took your favorite weapons, made them suck, and didn't have any other fun guns to use to replace it. So the game went from being awesome to kind of sterile and boring.

[–] grranibal@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Thank you, that’s sad to hear :/

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As an avid Helldiver. I disagree. There is so much fun to be had. And balancing weapons doesn't mean that everything sucks. It means you have a wider variety of viable loadouts in Super Helldive.

Wasnt that long ago they literally buffed every single primary across the board. Because people felt like they were useless compared to support weapons

[–] grranibal@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

That sounds nicer, glad you’re having fun

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

Nothing. It's literally just skill issues from people that can't roll through super helldives on god mode anymore.

IMO, Helldivers is more fun now than ever.

[–] barooboodoo@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

This article echoed my sentiments on the pve servers. I find it more engaging when we as players are actually making a choice to be friendly. It's also very satisfying to win a fight in self defense.

[–] M137@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago

I always like what I've seen of this game but have zero interest in PvP, so I'd definitely check it out if this becomes a thing.

[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website 4 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Who are these people that pay money for a game that is explicitly pvp, play it, find out there's pvp, then complain bitterly until the developers change the game for them? It's so bizarre

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Even worse; the game already has functionally pve only servers. The game explicitly matches you with players who match your aggression.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

I mean they basically built in griefing as a mechanic, which isn't fun for anyone who isn't a griefer. Acknowledging that most people find that tedious is the least surprising development in the history of developments.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 11 points 4 days ago

There are historically a lot of instances of players of PvE games demanding deathmatch modes and getting them, so why not this?

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's wrong with people playing a game, and then going eh it's okay but it would be nice if it had this other feature. Then devs listen to players and make it more fun for everyone, more games sell to those who held off because it lacked the other feature, and everyone wins.

Except the people who play exclusively PvP, since all the easy targets leave for PVE and they actually have to play only with other more experience players 😂

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Because this feature is fundamentally opposed to a very large part of why the game is fun to begin with. It's like asking to start death stranding with a super atv with infinite storage. Its even worse because it affects other players too.

It's possible this quarantines off the most boring players and let's low aggression lobbies shine (making emergent interaction a bigger part of the game than it currently is). It's just as possible that it forces everyone to pick between playing online single player or playing with deranged 4channers.

[–] Ocelot@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't Arc Raiders a PVE and PVP game from the start? Players can choose to team up or fight each other, there are no explicit rules on how to handle an objective.

[–] Whitebrow@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Originally, if memory serves, the game was supposed to be pve only, they only did a swivel chair to pvpve towards the end of development

I vaguely remember it being mentioned in a dev diary video about that too