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[–] obvs@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would Iran do anything to give the USA a win at this point?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When you surround an army, leave an outlet free. Do not press a desperate foe too hard.

  • sun tzu

the epstein class spending billions on secret doomsday bunkers while simultaneously ramping up climate change to the extremeeee proves that they have a different definitions of words like "desperate," so it's probably best that the world doesn't find out what their definition is.

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your comments seem based around the idea that this particular group of people EVER responds in any way other than demanding more.

Iran is winning this conflict.

No matter what the US media says, Iran is winning this conflict.

There is no reason to negotiate with the US and let the US gain a foothold that the US can exploit to actually potentially force Iran to lose.

I'm not saying that Iran's leadership are good people. I'm just pointing out that they don't gain anything by giving things to the US.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i agree -- i'm just afraid of trump or isreal using nukes and trigering world war 3 as a result.

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think that Trump or Israel using nukes would make very clear the danger Trump continuing to be in power and Israel continuing to have power cause to the rest of the world, and it might be interesting to see whether the rest of the world acts on that, given that nuclear weapons are not the only hugely destructive weapons now and given that other weapons have significantly more precision in their actions.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

if things right now are any indication, their supporters will support harder and their opponents will oppose harder. ww3 sounds like it's already happening.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

might be interesting to see whether the rest of the world acts on that

they've proven multiple times over the decades that money is more important than humanity since everone's savings/retirements/pension/etc. are tied to isreal

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As if USA will honor any deal. Rabid dog country.

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

art of the deal.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That really reeks of desperate.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

If there's one thing uniting them all it's desperation

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

"Invade Afghanistan to fight Taliban, only to give it back to worse Taliban" vibe.

The secret club and military industry money's been made, now let's leave the situation worse than before, eh?