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TL;DR

  • ASUS has apparently withdrawn the ability to unlock the bootloader on its phones.
  • As per the company’s technical support team, Zenfone 10 and Zenfone 9 users
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[–] CamileBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I have been thinking about getting the ZenFone 10 as well. I have seen a lot of similar posts here and on various google searches. In the XDA forum for the phone there also a topic about not being able to unlock the bootloader/root, but there is a bit more info on the reasoning.

"A moderator in the Asus ZenTalk forum posted that they are working on a new release of the unlock tool and that it should be available in Q3 2023."

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unlocking-the-bootloader.4607595/

[–] hyorvenn@jlai.lu 1 points 2 years ago

So they will just be bricks in a few years

[–] dsmk@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some here are mixing bootloader unlocking with rooting. They're not the same thing.

Asus broke bootloader unlocking, so you can only use the original ROM in the original state. You can't install a custom ROM or flash something like Magisk to root your device.

You can unlock without rooting or without installing a custom ROM. You can install a custom ROM without rooting. You can use stock and root. And you can use a custom ROM and root. But all this is only possible if you can unlock the device's bootloader.

[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also, something I don't see people discuss enough: for security, you also need to be able to re-lock the bootloader after installing a custom ROM. Otherwise anyone can inject code into the system partition if they have physical access to your device, which would also compromise your encrypted storage. So if there's no way to reverse the bootloader unlocking, that's also bad.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The problem with companies trying to stop this is the fact that there will be at least one person/team who will find a way to bypass this.

No amount of corporate software devs/engineers can stop the might of a determined team on the internet from achieving their goals when it comes to this kinda stuff.

Edit:

Don't know whether the bootloader locking is actually coming or not because I saw a different post saying it was a misunderstanding.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

The updated response from Asus:

The service team reply misunderstood the situation. Unlock tool is unavailable at this moment but we are allowing the possibility to unlock, please stay tuned.

So the server is down and will be back up. But that is not exactly the most reassuring response. It kind of seems like they are planning on removing it later or majorly altering it.

[–] ComputerSagtNein@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tbh, it has been years since I last rooted a phone. There is hardly any reason left to do it tbh.

[–] godless@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plenty of reasons.

  • System wide adblock
  • Advanced permission management
  • Backups and exports of system apps
  • Full uninstall of bloatware (instead of mere hiding them with adb)
  • Enabling screenshots system-wide

And a bunch of other stuff I need in order to have a fully functioning device.

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