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    [–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Linux is the best thing ever <> I'm the stupidest thing ever.

    It's not my operating systems fault it does exactly what I tell it to do

    [–] Stinkywizzleteats@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    why is this fix not working?

    ::squints::

    this post is from 2014.... stupid Linux

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    It's genuinely sad the information landscape for Linux is so bad due to time and lack of documentation (all hail the Arch Linux wiki), big LLMs got a higher hitrate.

    Unfortunately if they miss they might tell you to dd your disk as a speedtest.

    [–] Stinkywizzleteats@piefed.social 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    what LLM are you using that will tell you to do dd for a speed test? it has to have happened for you to talk about it right? you arent just making stuff up like a Karen calling 911 on a black person are you? that would be stupid to just make stuff up to dunk on AI for clout.

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

    Your reply reads like a major car crash.

    It was Mistral AI (most likely their mistral-large model, whatever was live for logged-in users about 4 months ago), see picture. Given enough inconclusive context, a sufficiently niche problem and/or a persistent user request they'll all generate dangerous nonsense or make shit up. ChatGPT isn't any better, just more willing to answer something positive even if it ends up being wrong.

    [–] Stinkywizzleteats@piefed.social -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    no it doesnt

    we are in a time where Anti AI claims need to be verified as much as actual AI output. people are so full blown Anti AI clout chasers that they just make stuff up. that's why "AI do X, make no mistakes" is a meme. lots of people are dogging on AI while putting the absolute minimum into trying to one shot some complex task then using it as "proof" AI is useless. they are the opposite side of the pro ai tech bro coin and they are making life easier for those companies by making low effort claims. I hate ai slop and I'm starting to hate anti ai slop even more because it delegitimizes my stance.

    you screenshot means nothing. you can get a LLM to say anything. since we are on the bullshit anti ai timeline you need more than a screenshot. AI companies need more than a claim their AI "broke out" of its sandbox. dig just a little deeper and you see it 100% didn't in fact autonomously get out. I'm sure if we dug deeper into what lead to your screenshot we would find multiple reasons for it to give the output it gave. also it's 2026 why would you think that is proof of anything?

    [–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

    Good thing that whole Chat (and therefore the screenshot) was literally vetted and used by a CCC member for a talk at the Hackover 2026 in Germany, a small but well-established hacker event. So I'm kind of sure your subtle insinuation that I might've just prompted it badly is bogus. 😘

    Either way, nobody owes you or anyone else proof unless they specifically aim to convince other people. If you feel the social media posts of other people "delegitimizes your stance" that's on you.

    [–] Stinkywizzleteats@piefed.social -1 points 11 hours ago

    IT professionals. The ones who's careers are hanging by a thread said AI bad and that's your source because it was literally vetted.

    no one said you generated anything.

    there is nothing wrong with my stance that crying wolf hurts everyone.

    [–] KernelTale@programming.dev 2 points 23 hours ago

    I have been pretty happy so far. Maybe I would be a metronome if I haven't spent growing up with Windows, so now I may appreciate it more than I should be. Or maybe because I am a Linux evangelist who spends their free time programming and tinkering for fun.

    [–] bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    The left hand side is whenever I rice a fresh install. The right hand side is whenever I have to edit /etc/fstab

    [–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    Yeah, i guess it basically comes down to when i want to tinker vs when i have to tinker.

    [–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

    I want to fstab myself in the head every time I need to manually edit that file

    [–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

    That was my thought process for a bit with having a raid not get mounted intermittently. Now it's finally stable.

    [–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    yeah but there's also been plenty of times i've been just screwed on windows where linux would have let me just go fix it myself, so that's still "linux is the best thing ever" for me.

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    There's no perfect OS. There's a lot of things about Linux that will drive anyone nuts. That said for a largely community driven project it's amazing.

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I'd much rather have the Linux annoyances than the Windows annoyances.

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I've found it's either just that it's a lack of support issue aka not enough Linux users for that product or service to justify support or good support. Either that or whatever I needed was a project run by a single guy so it works kinda but also kinda not.

    I guess one issue I used to run into particularly in development was conflicts in setting up a lot of things. Now with atomic systems and a sandbox for all my dev tools alongside snapshots that's essentially dealt with. Also flatpaks can be a massive pain in the rear if one wants more direct CLI control or is getting other issues with the sandbox of the flatpak format.

    I was really into the VanillaOS project for a little while but it's somehow gotten worse instead of better, at least the last time I used it earlier this year.

    [–] Zephyr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

    Linux is awesome and it's also a whole bunch of people donating their time which comes with some limitations.

    I use Ubuntu since 8 years on my laptop and it has been good experience. I donβ€˜t tinker with it much and it just works. On servers I use Debian which is rock solid as well.

    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

    Never happened to me... But nixos? Exactly that. The distro is awesome, the language makes me want to print the entire source code and make it's creators eat it

    [–] shininghero@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago

    The blessing and curse of simplicity.

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    One thing I wish Linux got its shit together for is the middle click paste selected function. I tried to like it, but if you work on editing a long text this shit is downright a liability. I was working on a 20 000 word essay and when I thought I was done and was about to submit it I realised that when I was scrolling through it to work on it the center click was accidentally clicked a few times and it pasted random bits of text throughout.

    This also makes center click unusable in video games.

    I want the ability to turn that shit off. Ctrl C and Ctrl V is plenty practical already. KDE has an option to disable it but it doesn't actually work.

    *Edit: solution in discussion below

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    There are ways to disable middle-click pasting. A quick web search turns up a few.

    Either way, I've never had the need to disable it for the handful of games I play, including a couple where I regularly use middle-click.

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    For me a quick web search turned up plenty of posts from people complaining about the desktop environment provided way of disabling it not working. Most of them had no replies. Others had tone-deaf replies suggesting to turn it off using the option they said wasn't working. And finally a few suggested to run a variety of shady scripts that mess with the guts of the system with no way of undoing the if they break something.

    And I'm so happy for you that it works for the games you play.

    Edit:

    Actual solution found:

    After a much deeper search, I've found out that buried in there was the actual answer I was looking for: The Linux version of Firefox is independently applying a middle click paste on its own regardless of whether you've had it disabled in your desktop environment options or not. For those who are struggling with this: You can disable it in about:config by changing "middlemouse.paste" to false. If you've also disabled in your desktop environment settings, it should be gone for good.

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I saw that post about Firefox. If you'd said it was browser games causing issues, I might have linked it. (Or I might have failed and not done that. What ifs are tricky.).

    If you want kind of funny, someone posted CSS Quake a while back and that browser game has WASD keybindings and Ctrl bound to movedown / crouch. And if you crouch and move forward, it closes the browser window. And there's no way to fix that.

    [–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    I wasn't talking about browser-based games. The middle click pasting makes the middle mouse button unusable in games at least in my distro (Fedora). Disabling it in the DE settings fixed that issue which was separate from the annoyance of accidentally pasting text while scrolling, which was also solved by disabling it in Firefox.

    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I've never had this kind of problem in several actual decades of running Linux. Mouse2 paste is great.

    I conclude it's a skill issue.

    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Sorry, I don't have such weaknesses and thus cannot relate.

    [–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

    For recursive behavior, tell me if each of these requires -r or -R (or either) without looking it up (man page, --help, web, etc):

    • chown
    • cp
    • ls
    • rsync
    • scp
    • zip
    [–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Also whoever decided what the tar flags will be needs to be hit with a brick, repeatedly if possible.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    without looking it up (man page, --help, web, etc):

    But why? Why would you need to do this when we have access to these tools?

    Pointless test.

    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Oh god oh damn my kde doesn't tell me that...

    Okay I'll give it a whirl:

    • chown: yes, I think
    • cp: no, pretty sure
    • ls: what? Like for a tree? For folder size? Idk I say yes because there's nothing recursive to me about standard ls
    • rsync: literally no clue have never used it but I'd guess no
    • scp: yes pretty confident
    • zip: yes also pretty confident

    The actual reason I barely ever find Linux annoying is because my Fedora KDE just does all I need it to pretty much all the time.

    With ls you can list the contents of directories recursively. Or you can list the contents in reverse order. One of them requires a lowercase "r", one requires uppercase, but which is which? It's not such a big deal that different commands have inconsistent syntax, but even having run Linux as my primary OS since 2004, and before that Unix since 1993, I still have to look these up sometimes.

    [–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

    Aight I got cp wrong, which is kinda silly since I knew it for scp but I'm happy with that nonetheless

    [–] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    without looking it up:

    chown -R

    cp -r

    ls -r

    rsync. (idk, i always google this one)

    scp -r

    zip -r

    but why not look it up? you either use a tool and arguments often enough to memorize it, or you don't.

    [–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    It's not about looking it up or not, it's a challenge to the boasting of the commenter above me in the context of the OP's post.

    [–] dadarobot@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    ah yeah that's fair. but also i kinda agree with that person's response. getting frustrated with linux doesnt mean linux sucks, it means you are learning. ive been using linux for over 20 years, and i still find plenty of things that take me out of my element. and that's a good thing.

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    [–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    -R -r -R -r -r -r I think

    ~~I don't know if this is true, but if yes, then -R is a GNU weirdness~~ No wait that doesn't make sense. ls is also GNU.

    [–] forbiddencherry@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Very close! -R, either, -R, -r, -r, -r. I typically think "-R except for ssh-related", but zip violates that and I'm sure there are plenty of other counterexamples too. On the topic of ssh, I still can't keep -p or -P straight (ssh vs scp).

    [–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Wait if cp is either, then I got it correct, right? Yay me

    A couple more challenges:

    • As an unprivileged user, append multiple lines to a file owned by root, using sudo and a here document.
    • Redirect both stdout and stderr to a file using Bourne shell syntax (not bash!)
    [–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

    Every damn time.

    I think rsync is lowercase, and maybe zip. The rest I think are uppercase. Complete guess though.

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    [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

    There is no metronome.

    You see?

    It is not the metronome that oscillates, but yourself.

    [–] CallMeAl@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    sorry i am a non-metronome owner and thus cannot relate

    [–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    rm -rf /

    GNU/Linux sees this and says: ok.

    [–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    you forgot --no-preserve-root.

    [–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    My life is ruined. :(

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