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Walter led a campaign that resulted in the shutdown of a music venue. He says whingeing is a right (www.sbs.com.au)
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[–] Nath@aussie.zone 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is the key bit here:

Alison Flett never imagined her live music venue would cause such conflict when it first opened in 2021.

This isn't a case where people moved to an area that had a live music venue and then started complaining. This is an established neighbourhood and the music venue came to them. Then:

"When the club shuts down in the early hours — or late at night, rather — you've got the antisocial aspects of people slamming car doors, people shouting, people urinating in the street, people leaving bottles, cans, et cetera ... "

He said it was taking a toll on himself and his neighbours.

"People wake up to mess in the morning ... People can't sleep — it stresses people out."

I mean, fair enough. Some club opened up the street from me and every night arseholes were making a lot of noise at 2am, waking the kids up. Finally, we wake up to a trashed street - yeah, I reckon I'd complain to the council, also.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The reference to "take this place over" indicates it was a pre-existing venue - it's just her iteration of it that opend in 2021.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Before she took it over, it was dormant for two years. Prior to that, it was a Greek Macedonian Club.

It's annoying that the article doesn't provide this information.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 6 points 4 days ago

This kind of bastard is not uncommon

they target a trendy area, look for loud or bothersome venues, then buy a house nearby, the price will be lower than what is normal for that area

then they complain and complain

get the venue closed down

then their property increases in value

profit!

[–] No1@aussie.zone 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

My whinge is that I read the fucking article.

I strongly recommend you don't.

[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This appears to be not a "whinger" as such, but someone who went out, collected evidence from other neigbours, presented it properly to the correct and relevant authorities, and then in due course action was taken by those authorities as a result.

It looks like a model example of how it should be done. Framing it as "whinger shuts down fun music venue" is a bit much.

Edit: Having said that , it seems that this individual only moved to the neighbourhood "a few years ago". Possibly one could then say "Buyer beware", like if you bought a flat above a nightclub. But the fact that there were 150 signatures on the petition presented suggests that he was just the organised face of a bunch of affected people.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oh, the article gets worse. Way worse.

Don't read any further.

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago

Oof! I have thoughts..

As an engineering student, she said exam times are particularly difficult.

"You can smell people from across the room who've been cramming for exams ..." she said.

Sydney optometrist, Lauren Leung

Or they're nervous, or they have a medical condition, or there's many other reasons... What a horribly vain person to think she knows the reason why someone might not smell nice out of 20 or more people crammed in a room for over an hour together. Glad she has the foresight to appreciate she takes her vanity too far.

John built a multi-million-dollar air-conditioning business from the ground up in western Sydney's Mount Druitt and believes whingeing limits our potential.

What a lovely, positive outlook. Maybe right, maybe wrong, but positive nonetheless... then proceeds to participate in a favourite past-time of tradies, whinge about his apprentices...

"We have it with our apprentices.

"After a year and a half of being an apprentice, they want to be the CFO."

How oblivious can you get?

Although people struggle with different things, the psychologist says we must be careful of "competitive suffering", the act of comparing or ranking one's suffering against others.

"This idea that we hold onto now that 'my pain is worse than anyone's ever in history' becomes a problem ... like I think 1850s for women [was] probably not a great time [neither was wartime in the 1940s] ...

Good point, but we really don't need to be looking back in history for comparisons that give us some perspective. It's a real pick and mix out there at the moment of horrible lives being lived that we compare ourselves to, from war, genocide, famine, and natural disasters. This isn't a time to look at the past, this is a time to look at our neighbours, and outreach our hands to them.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago

walter should move to melbourne and find out that his "civic duty" is to not move near an active night spot if you don't like fucking noisy venues.

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago

He acted on that sense of duty most acutely a few years, taking issue with what he describes as a "problematic nightclub".

I think they accidentally a word.

What they don’t address at all is that people can have a whinge and get a shit venue closed or the venue can get fire bombed.

It isn’t that Aussies are soft, it’s that we recognised at some point that listening to whingers is sometimes more productive than telling them to kick rocks.