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big collage of people captioned, "the only people I wouldn't have minded being billionaires"
names(and a bit of info, which is not included in the collage) of people in collage(from top left, row-wise):

  • Alexandra Elbakyan, creator of Sci-Hub. perhaps the single-most important person in the scientific community regarding access to research papers.
  • Linus Torvalds, creator of linux kernel and git, courtesy of which we have GNU/Linux.
  • David Revoy, french artist famous for his pepper&carrot, a libre webcomic. inspiration for artists who are into free software movement
  • Richard Stallman, arch-hacker who started it all. founded the GNU project, free software movement, Emacs, GCC, GPL, concept of copyleft, among many other things. champions for free software to this day(is undergoing treatment for cancer at the moment).
  • Jean-Baptiste Kempf, president of VLC media player for 2 decades now
  • Ian Murdock, founder of Debian GNU/Linux and Debian manifesto. died too soon.
  • Alexis Kauffmann, creator of framasoft, a French nonprofit organisation that champions free software. known for providing alternatives to centralised services, notable one being framapad and peertube.
  • Aaron Swartz, a brilliant programmer who created RSS, markdown, creative commons, and is known for his involvement in creation of reddit. he also died too soon.
  • Bram Moolenaar, creator of vim, a charityware.

on the bottom right is the text reading, "plus the thousands of free software enthusiasts working tirelessly."

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[-] Cralder@feddit.nu 286 points 1 year ago

It's nice to appreciate people who do good things, but keep in mind that the only way people become billionaires is by exploiting people. So I would not want any of these people to be billionaires because it would mean they got that wealth not by doing good things, but by owning ridiculous amounts of capital and exploiting people.

Rant over, sorry.

[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 90 points 1 year ago

it's alright mate. your rant helped me see things in a different light. so thank you.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Well said. Thinking billionaires are assholes because they're naturally shitty is like thinking they got rich by being naturally hard working.

Take landlords for example. You can be the nicest person in the world. The kind of person who makes friends with the tenant. What do you think happens to you after you've evicted a few of your friends?

Systems are a bitch.

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[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I could see someone making something useful and selling it to billions of people at a fair price not being exploitative and also being a billionaire.

I think it's rare to the point of maybe happening once ever, but I'm not super upset about the behavior of the guy currently bankrolling the signal foundation.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 year ago

The problem is if you aren't exploitative then you aren't being as "efficient" (in a capitalist sense) so you'll be out-competed. The system is designed to incentivize exploitation. It's mis-aligned to do anything else.

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 137 points 1 year ago

no one should be billionaires.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 103 points 1 year ago

None of them. I don't care who they are, nobody should be a billionaire.

[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago

The point is, I think, if they were to become billionaires (say Bll Gtes leaves it to them in his will), then they wouldn't be billionaires for long -- their moral compasses (given they've spent their lives on non-profit causes) dictate that they'd likely put the money into other non-profit ventures.

[-] d00phy@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Thats a fair point, but money changes people. That kind of money is obscene because it effectively puts you above most laws. I, too, would like to believe that the folks on this list would do only good with the money; but the longer the list, the more likely you witness the “Bad Change!” At the end of the day, most folks have families and other concerns outside of their public pursuits. That kind of money, while bringing its own problems, can get rid of just about any “normal people” worries (obviously not something like inoperable cancer)!

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[-] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

Nope, there should not be any! Fuck capitalism!

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of this tweet from Merman_Melville: "Being a billionaire must be insane. You can buy new teeth, new skin. All your chairs cost 20,000 dollars and weigh 2,000 pounds. Your life is just a series of your own preferences. In terms of cognitive impairment it's probably like being kicked in the head by a horse every day" The experience itself is probably harmful and changes the person.

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago

Studies have shown that people change at a certain amount of money, like they cross a line in the sand. When you can buy anything everything just becomes yours by default in your mind. And anyone who can't do that are basically sheep dogs - useful but not worth your time. These studies were done in the twenty-tens and the number then was between 20 and 30 million for most people. Imagine your view on the world if you have 100 times that amount.

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
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[-] dojan@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

You need to be a horrible person to become a billionaire.

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 year ago

You need to be a horrible person to become a billionaire

And to STAY a billionaire. If you have immense power to do good, and every single morning you wake and choose not to, you are an evil ghoul driven by greed, period.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love how so many of them demand love and acclaim for claiming they will give their money away... when they die.

You want me to sing your praises because you won't use the money you made exploiting countless laborers and lobbying government to benefit yourself above society to anoint a handful of nepo babies to wield that power after you as some part of a new nepo dynasty? Gee thanks?

Its like a serial killer promising not to train his children in the family business. Its not doing good, just doing slightly less bad. Except billionaires cause damage on a far greater scale.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 year ago

If they were billionaires, they likely wouldn't be the people they are today.

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[-] m13@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago

None of these people could ever be billionaires. Only a sociopathic, narcissistic mind could ever do what it takes to hoard a billion dollars. Capitalism rewards having a lack of empathy for other people.

[-] g33z@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Image of me is missing but I still agree.

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[-] hersh@literature.cafe 29 points 1 year ago

Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple.

I don't think he was ever a billionaire, though he's certainly done quite well for himself. Since leaving Apple, he has founded several new companies and projects, focusing a lot on education and philanthropy. He was also involved in founding the EFF.

He's an engineer first and foremost, and several of his projects never achieved mainstream success, partly for being, IMHO, ahead of their time -- for example, a programmable universal remote in the 80s, and a GPS-based item tracker in the early 2000s.

As far as I know, he has never been involved in any notable scandals.

[-] turbodrooler@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

At Apple’s IPO, Woz gave $10 million of his stocks to Apple employees. Jobs didn’t want to give any to employees. Seems like a good guy.

Can we throw Steve Irwin in here. I bet that dude could have saved the Great Barrier Reef and a whole lot of wildlife if he had more means.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No one should have that much power.

I wouldn't have trusted Fred Rogers with a billion dollars, and he's practically the only famous stranger I could have seen trusting with my newborn alone.

It's a society warping level of wealth. No single, unelected, unaccountable person should possess that much uniltateral power.

The global ~~allowance~~ encouragement of such an exploitative, reckless goal is why we are in our various bleak situations.

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[-] solrize@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

on the bottom right is the text reading, “plus the thousands of free software enthusiasts working tirelessly.”

We don't work tirelessly. We get tired all the time, but keep at it as well as we can.

[-] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago

But of course, such based individuals will never be billionaires. Specifically because their basedness precludes them from being psychopathic enough to commit the kind of cutthroat, violent exploitation of tens of thousands of workers' labor inherently necessary to amass such wealth.

[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

when you put it that way, I realise how being so rich is anti to what most of these people are known for.

speaking of which, here's a to-scale representation of how rich some people are.

[-] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

I have a standing theory that once a person is no longer concerned about their welfare or the welfare of their descendants, they go crazy.

Like, once you reach a point where survival is no longer a problem, that part of your brain goes nuts. It's not a flawless theory, since philanthropy is a thing and people like Dean Kamen exist, but it's a thing that seems to happen an awful lot.

[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it’s more that billionaires have very few people to surround themselves with except for sycophants and other billionaires.

Nobody says no to them, everything they’ve ever done was the right thing according to everyone around them, so why should the next thing they do or say be wrong?

Covid really really accelerated the craziness among them.

[-] outcide@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I've worked for several very, very rich men. The pattern I notice is that they always get surrounded by people who make sure that they never, ever hear "no".

Imagine living in a world where every inane thing that comes out of your mouth, somebody immediately makes it their mission to try and make it happen. You no longer get any kind of useful feedback from the world and your opportunities to learn from feedback are greatly reduced.

I agree, I think in the end, it does make them crazy.

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[-] Cannacheques@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 year ago

Rip Swartz man, the idea of all human knowledge from how to change your tire to how to put out a fire being monetised is legitimately scary

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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Aspiring to becoming and staying a billionaire requires a certain amount of psychopathy because it takes a certain mentality to want to own so much wealth that you'll never be able to enjoy all of it in a lifetime while at the same time denying or taking away the wealth of others who might need it.

If I had a billion, I'd take a few million and live off the interest and give away the rest and not be bothered by anyone or anything ever again.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Richard Stallman

Are you sure about that one?

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[-] beSyl@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago

Aaron Swartz created markdown?!! I did not know that!

[-] BiggestBulb@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I also had no idea he made RSS

[-] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Watch "The Internet's Own Boy", it's a great documentary about Aaron.

[-] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

How would they earn billions without getting the money from other people's work?

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