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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Danish shipping company A.P. Moller-Maersk will pause all container shipments through the Red Sea until further notice, a spokesperson for the company told Reuters on Friday.

“Following the near-miss incident involving Maersk Gibraltar yesterday and yet another attack on a container vessel today, we have instructed all Maersk vessels in the area bound to pass through the Bab al-Mandab Strait to pause their journey until further notice,” the company said in a statement.

Maersk on Thursday said its vessel Maersk Gibraltar was targeted by a missile while travelling from Salalah, Oman, to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia and that the crew and vessel were reported safe.

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[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 19 points 11 months ago

Could this kick off a chain of other ocean transport vessel operators doing the same, and end up recreating the logistical nightmare back during Covid when that other ship got lodged in the Suez Canal?

Used to work as a data analyst for a global logistics company and this has me a bit worried.

[-] cucumber_sandwich@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Used to work as a data analyst for a global logistics company and this has me a bit worried.

You should be the one answering the question for us laymen. If you don't know nobody does

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That was 8 years ago. Have not been in or followed the industry in depth that much.

That being said, I mean, its possible that other shipping carriers could follow suit, but at that level of stuff you are talking the gossip i heard from sitting on the same floor as the CEO and VPs, and emails being sent only to my former position, executive level report analyst, basically the reports for the VPs and CEO, and meetings with the same.

If such information were widely available it would fuck up the stock market to hard, and it would make it too hard for the few people who in reality are the only ones who know such things im advance to do insider trading and make huge world economy shaping plans with all their friends on all the other corporate boards they sit on.

I mean uh what no that never happens... yes uh for legal reasons disregard that last sentence.

SO ANYWAY, I currently do not have the info required to make more than a guess that it is a plausible scenario, the actual decision to uh kind of cripple global capitalism involves powerful people who do not cc on their email chains anymore.

Lets just put it this way:

After a bit more than a decade doing data analysis and programming and database management for a very prominent tech firm, previously mentioned global logistics firm and a non profit aimed at helping the homeless, I am now an anarcho communist who believes the MIT model that civilization will basically collapse by 2040, so I am currently attempting to fulfil one of my own personal dreams and make my own video game, before that happens.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

Well, your comment escalated fast

[-] vexikron@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

... and it looks like my concerns were justified:

https://www.barrons.com/news/more-shipping-giants-suspend-passage-via-red-sea-after-attacks-b02b3b93

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/15/yemen-rebels-hit-cargo-ship-in-latest-red-sea-attack

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67738792

Ok then! Get ready for Western economies to have even more problems, shortages, things lost in shipping and taking 3 times as long to arrive, and get ready for the public to not understand why and basically blame whatever they already do not like for a shittifying economy!

Uh I guess the long predicted US stock market collapse is now more likely. Maybe end of Q2 or beginning of Q3 in 2024?

[-] BattleGrown@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I heard Hapag Lloyd will do the same, so you could be right

[-] rivermonster@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Smart with Iran proxy attacking everyone through the Houthis.

I don't understand why Iran wants a war so badly. They'll be annihilated so fast... and their civilians hate the government.

I'd love to see the Islamic Republic destroyed and freedom return to Iran via a citizens' revolt.

[-] Linechecker@monero.town 3 points 11 months ago

I remember seeing a documentary about starving children and famine in Yemen. Have things changed?

[-] rivermonster@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No, it's still awful there. But just like Gaza, where Hamas takes all the food and fuel from the civilians, the same thing happens in Yemen. It's a humanitarian disaster still.

The Hourthis are partners with Hamas and the Islamic Republic of Iran for a reason.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

However, there's an Arleigh Burke class destroyer in the area along with an carrier strike group.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

About 50 cargo ships pass through the red sea every day. Is there enough naval vessels to escort each one?

IIRC A carrier strike group has about 10 ships...

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Short answer is yes there is enough. There was a French frigate running escort the other day which had to bat down Houthi drones. Looks to me like they're holding fire, but it won't be too long before FAFO.

[-] rivermonster@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I mean Iranian drones... but I'm just being pedantic, and I agree with your assessment. The Burk is constantly swatting those things down.

[-] rivermonster@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

And the US just got Australia to send a destroyer as well.

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