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I am sure it was different back then but how did it evolve from just hurtful speech to something you can get arrested for? Is there like a time line of cases or incidents or something????

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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

Pre-modern societies often took words very seriously. The Romans didn't have a robust sense of being arrested, per se, but purely verbal harassment and threats were treated the same as physical battery that didn't cause permanent injury - as a cause for a lawsuit and fines/damages to be taken from the offending party.

[–] Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You could be drawn and quartered for saying the king smells bad. Protected speech among the common folk is a very new thing and relatively rare even now.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My opinion on it, from what I understand of terrorism, is that it's lasted for the past 5,800+ years (ever since the creation of our planet), which started with Cain taking down Abel, for Abel had a better gift to Yah than Cain.

The evolution from hurtful speech to something being a crime is because of the evolution of pre-crime (KYC was the start of it), which started to accelerate back in the 00's with the PATRIOT Act in the United States (the District of Columbia, the city-state it is), though it was some time earlier. However, hurtful speech was supposed to be protected since America had its start, though I later found out that 1A protected practicing Catholics, and completely ignored Protestants (making the latter slaves to the former). As long as it's "lawful, but awful", then I think you should be alright.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

However, hurtful speech was supposed to be protected since America had its start, though I later found out that 1A protected practicing Catholics, and completely ignored Protestants (making the latter slaves to the former).

That's... not even close to true.

[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 10 hours ago

Again, it's my opinion from what I've studied the past year or so. Maybe I wasn't so clear on that.