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[โ€“] VanillaWasp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

who controls the keys / where are the keys?

Users will know that a conversation is end-to-end encrypted when they see a new lock icon

๐Ÿ˜‚ imagine trusting an emoji

[โ€“] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know it isn't perfect, but this is absolutely massive for privacy.

While most of my close friends and family have shifted to signal, most people I talk to are still using the default apps.

Inevitable metadata leaks aside this will close the loop on literally billions of conversations. I'll take the big privacy W when I can.

[โ€“] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, it isn't massive for privacy.

It's hardware-bound, meaning at a minimum who you're communicating with and when will always be known, today and in the future.

And I haven't seen anything showing that it has Perfect Forward Secrecy, so all someone has to do is save the messages and if it's ever cracked, they'll know exactly what you said, when, and which device.

It's a feel good to make people think something is being done, when it's far from "good".

BTW, hardware-bound ID was determined to be a bad idea 40 years ago. Even SPX moved away from it in the 90's.

[โ€“] VanillaWasp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

The collective amnesia is unreal. Did we all just forget about prism? No US tech company can be trusted with your data at any level. By law they have to have backdoors or be shutdown, and can legally lie to you.

Dystopian bullshit aside, those are some fuck-ugly slides, goddamn.

[โ€“] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago

Luckily, when those documents were leaked, the evildoers saw the error of their ways and commited their life to make sure such unspeakable acts can never happen again, we can all enjoy the robust and important network without any issues.