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What historical figures (recent or ancient) can compare to Trump?

Liberals will of course say Putin (which of course they know nothing about), but in my limited knowledge, Putin gained support by reighning in oligarchs and stabilizing the country. Trump is doing the opposite of this.

In my limited knowledge, he seems most like Boris Yeltsin. A complete dolt and perfect avatar for the terminal stage of a failed empire.

I think certain traits are unprecedented. He may be the most anti-social leader in history. His administration is doing things that don't make sense on a societal level, like defunding research for extreme weather and disease prevention.

Maybe this is just the most extreme form of narcissism on history: the entire world can end as long as I get what I want.

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[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 13 points 10 hours ago

Yeltsin wasn't born rich, nor was he a particularly convincing social force.

I see a specific combination of factors that propelled Trump into power: immense inherited wealth, being spoiled and myopic as a result of said wealth, the profound influence of mass media and spectacle, and a populace that is facing downward mobility or some sort of societal decline.

A lot of possible comparisons are career military figures, but Trump never got his boots muddy in anything like the military.

One comparison that I often like to make (which pisses off the libs) is George Washington. Fabulous wealth that he did not "build up" himself, profound racism and classism, reactionary politics, marshaling a contingency of landowners and petit bourgeois to become the dominant political force. The biggest difference was that Washington was more literate and tacit and proper, while Trump is a showman who dives into every intrigue and controversy.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago

george bush centrist

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 9 points 10 hours ago

I know it's low hanging fruit, but treatler

Charismatic idiot that is really good at rousing the spirits of every fascist inside the boiling pot that is the USA, makes good deals for the top capitalists which are the tech bros in the current time, and spreads anticommunism as much as if the USSR still existed.

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 4 points 9 hours ago

Alcibiades is an interesting Greek pull. Article's from before the 2016 election. I'll add some more, since there's a lot of overlap:

  • Wealthy sex pests who spent their whole lives being famous, and being famous for being famous
  • Pretended that losing was winning (Alcibiades's whole resume consisted of "Well, I almost succeeded at . . .")
  • Profaning the mysteries : Epstein connections. Secret societies of aristocratic ghouls breaking major taboos.
  • Charming enough to wriggle his way out of jams that would have ended with hemlock for other leaders. Survived multiple cancellations (banished and sentenced to death in absentia, defected to Sparta, fled to Persia after supposedly having an affair with a Spartan queen, came back to Athens to lead the military again, only to fuck up and flee again for good)
  • Convinced his country to engage in an imperial boondoggle supposedly on behalf of an overseas ally, only for that war to ultimately lead to the collapse of the entire empire (it took another ten years, and involved Alcibiades being exiled and returning from exile and being exiled again, but they were never going to recover from the loss of the Sicilian Expedition).
  • Per Aristophanes, the Athenians "love him, they hate him, they can't get enough of him."
  • Masters of public relations - Trump would not only do real interviews but fake interviews (John Barron). Alcibiades's talents are overrated to this day because he was likely a major source for Thucydides, who gives him the benefit of the doubt in all sorts of places where he really didn't deserve it.
[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 6 points 10 hours ago

I think certain traits are unprecedented. He may be the most anti-social leader in history. His administration is doing things that don't make sense on a societal level, like defunding research for extreme weather and disease prevention.

There are other examples of this, like Hitler's war on "Jewish physics" and Pol Pot's war on a lot of things.

[–] FidelChadstro@hexbear.net 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I couldn't remember his name so I typed "that corrupt Italian leader" into a search engine and came up with ...

spoilerSilvio Berlusconi

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 7 points 11 hours ago

Nah, Berlusconi fucked too much to be compared to Trump

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 9 points 11 hours ago

Reagan is the most obvious

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Napoleon III comes to mind.

[–] ComradeRat@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

“To the proletariat, the election of Napoleon meant the deposition of Cavaignac, the overthrow of the Constituent Assembly, the dismissal of bourgeois republicanism, the cessation of the June victory. To the petty bourgeoisie, Napoleon meant the rule of the debtor over the creditor. For the majority of the big bourgeoisie, the election of Napoleon meant an open breach with the faction of which it had had to make use, for a moment, against the revolution, but which became intolerable to it as soon as this faction sought to consolidate the position of the moment into a constitutional position. Napoleon in place of Cavaignac meant to this majority the monarch, in place of the republic, the beginning of the royalist restoration, a sly hint at Orléans, the fleur-de-lis hidden beneath the violets.[87] Lastly, the army voted for Napoleon against the Mobile Guard, against the peace idyll, for war.

Thus it happened, as the Neue Rheinische Zeitung stated, that the most simple-minded man in France acquired the most multifarious significance. Just because he was nothing, he could signify everything save himself.”

Marx, 18th Brumaire

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 2 points 9 hours ago
[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago

I am reminded of Karensky who also possessed an extraordinary stamina for flinging magnificent lies and betrayals as he held the reins of a dying state.

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Wilhelm II

(this is a joke answer that i have not thought about for more than 5 seconds)

[–] Runcible@hexbear.net 2 points 10 hours ago

of the scream?

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 9 hours ago

As IByteABit said, it’s obvious but Hitler is the clearest comparison.

I’d throw in Tsar Nicholas 2 for second place. Or maybe King George 3, didn’t he Brandonize pretty hard later in life?

[–] Caitycat@hexbear.net 1 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I've not done much to read up on this specifically, but I have some friends who really like comparing Trump to Napoleon for some reason.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 3 points 9 hours ago

the english have spent 2 centuries heaping trash on Napoleon, such that english speakers routinely think Napoleon was a buffoon lashing out on account of being short. an image you could compare to Trump if you squint, i guess.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 1 points 8 hours ago

read 18th brumaire to find out more (about the third, to be precise)