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[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I’d be interested to know who did this, and why, rather than knee-jerk to anti-Jewish violence. I would first assume that the violence is anti-Israel, with no information, given the current political climate.

It’s my understanding that Hatzola aren’t politically active and that many of their members are anti-Zionists. If they were targeted by anti-Zionists, then these criminals are ignorant, stupid, or anti-Jewish…I wouldn’t assume the latter.

[–] kevinsbacon@lemmy.today 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wtf is there segregated healthcare in the UK?

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 17 points 2 days ago

I'm not familiar with situation in the UK, but in other countries there are NGOs that try to complement the national healthcare services, ranging from financing ambulances to at home care. They are often tied to religious movements.

At a quick glance, Hatzola Northwest seems to provide services for free to everyone in their catchment area, so any segregation is geographic in origin.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nope, it is an adjunct funded by the Jewish community to avoid accidental things not approved of (can't list what as I can't recall).

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

I believe it has to do with Kosher blood.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Not exactly. The Orthodox Jews run their own service in a lot of places. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatzalah

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jewish people throughout the world reap what Israel has sown

Having said that, don't think for a second that this group aren't Zionists

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not at all relevant if they're zionist or not. It's a volunteer ambulance service

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I disagree

And if you've seen how orthodox jews treat other people in London, you might sing a different song

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago

Civilians are civilians. Nothing can ever justify attacks on healthcare infrastructure. That's an absolute

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is an antisemitic attack. The perpetrators must be brought to justice.

Nothing to do with critical views about Israel's unlawful and illegitimate / inhumane violence. The perpetrators must be brought to justice.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Yes, the perpetrators must be brought to justice.

No, we shouldn’t assume it’s an anti-Jewish attack…given the current situation re Israel.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Must they? Do they even have that on terf island?

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

An exerpt from "the big book of rules of how to be a decent human being" for you

"Rule 1. Dont be a cunt.

The end."

This concludes the big book of rules of how to be a decent human being.

And yes, despitethe actions of the settler state, and the actions of britain that led to ths creation of said genocidal state, there are still laws in the UK to protect EVERYONE, even if they fall for propaganda and support hateful things.

Someone far smarter than I am said

"If you don't support human rights for everyone, you don't support human rights at all."

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I dont think we disagree on the general direction of what justice would be. Im pessimistic it can happen there.

Im really fucking sick of clarifying this. I know the full responsibility of my frustration does not fall on you and it may not be fair to demand an answer to the following question but i do hope i can still ask without offending:

Why the fuck is the default assumption that my expectations and hopes are the same, with no gulf between them? What the actual fuck is fucking wrong with so fucking many people, including yourself?

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You asked "Must they" as if there was a situation whete they shouldn't be punished to the full extent of the law (at the very least that's my interpretation of your question) and then called the uk a terf country that doesn't have any laws.

Hence my joke about the big book of rules

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Must not should. Jesus's syphilitic cock i hate what weve made of our species.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Nobody said "should"?

Genuinely don't get where the distinction is, like "they must get punished" and "they should get punished" say the same thing

Unless you're thinking along the lines of "they will" vs "they should", in which case I get where you're coming from

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, unless we adopt the principle of ignoring crimes.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 1 day ago

When conservatives and those who serve their interests do them, we already have.

[–] parson0@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago

Londoners have a right to defend themselves

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Jewish or Israeli?

The distinction matters.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It really doesn’t since 85-90% of jews support the Jewish state as it currently operates. This was also an Orthodox Jewish service so definitely Israel supporters.

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Entirely made up statistic by an actual antisemite piece of shit. Go fuck yourself nazi.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/op_eds/2025/02/14/the-vast-majority-of-us-jews-support-israel-lets-act-on-that-knowledge/

“Surveys in other countries where there is both a sizable Jewish community and a coruscating wave of antisemitism have delivered similar results. Hamas and its international cheerleaders are widely detested, and Israel is regarded supportively and affectionately.”

Yes the number is likely around that 85% mark.

https://www.ajc.org/news/ajc-survey-shows-american-jews-are-deeply-and-increasingly-connected-to-israel

[–] i_ben_fine@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This might be a dumb time to ask this question. It's an ambulance service in London. It's Bri'ish.

[–] entropiclyclaude@lemmy.wtf 1 points 20 hours ago

I don’t know if you’re aware, but they can be Bri’ish and Jewish and/or Zionist at the same time.

I’m still trying to figure out when the ambulance converted to Judaism