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[in front of a protesting crowd, two characters are talking]
[blue, serious] Violence is never the solution
[purple, smug] Agreed, let's disarm the police

[blue is now shown angrily gesticulating, sweating bullets]
NO,
NOT
LIKE
THIS

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[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

Violence seems to usually be the solution. Waiting for the protests to no longer be peaceful.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 1 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

Is this some American joke I'm too Norwegian to get? Yes, because our police don't escalate, they don't serve as some political tool to harass people for political gains, but they are highly qualified since you only make it to police school if you have high marks in most subjects...

In the US, you could be ruled out of a position as sheriff if you score too high on a damn IQ test.

See a pattern here, yanks? The more intelligent, the higher their chances are of being stable and capable of having empathy.

But then again, you do live in a country where the police used an attack helicopter to bomb a housing complex...

So maybe try community policing for a while?

"How about no police"

Yes, yes, and no laws, right? And no military... surely all these things are great ideas.

[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 minutes ago

Don't police in Norway also have their guns locked?

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 17 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Let's get some stats, shall we?

Since 1982, in the US, about 1130 people have died from mass shootings.

American police in that same amount of time has killed over 38000 people.

The problem has never been AR-15s, or the lack of background checks, or anything of the sort. It's always been the pigs. But liberal suburbans enjoy the benefits of the pigs protecting their property while they kill poorer people, so telling them this makes them stare blankly, or they double down and continue to whine about weapons of war, to which I say: If you're so concerned with weapons of war being in the streets, why does every law banning AR-15s add exemptions to the police?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan -4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That's just bad statistics.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 9 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Not at all. This article with a spreadsheet by Mother Jones show that there's been about 1128 mass shooting deaths in the US since 1982, using active shooter incident data. And this paper by The Lancer estimates about 30800 deaths by the police since 1982 until 2019. Adding the data from Wikipedia from the last few years (2019-2026) gives us about 38028 people killed by the American police since 1982, so I was a little off. Even so, taking all that into account, police in america is 33 times deadlier than mass shooters.

Wake up to reality, kid. Your pigs are worse than people who go to schools to kill children because they're omegasuicidal.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

police in america is 33 times deadlier than mass shooters.

AI Overview Estimates of mass shooters in U.S. history vary widely based on definitions, with studies identifying roughly 172 to 298 "public mass shooters" between 1966 and 2024.

As of 2023, there were approximately 720,652 law enforcement officers in the United States, according to Statista.

Yea you're just bad at statistics. Which is not mutually exclusive with ACAB btw.

Like this is the reason math teachers don't accept just the answer. One can arrive at the correct answer while still being terrible at math.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not each individual police officer, police as an institution is more deadly than society’s baseline rate of mass shooters. Surely that was obvious from the context.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Buddy ACAB all the way. But you and everyone upvoting you are shit at math. Hive mind af.

edit: Especially your bit about the AR15. WTF does that have to do with your stats? 90% of the police shootings I see are with handguns.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

What I meant with that is that all the gun control push to ban AR-15s because they're used in active shooter incidents from liberals is bullshit because there is a much bigger problem of police violence in America that suburban liberals refuse to address because they benefit from it.

Also, you posting an AI overview immediately makes me think you're posting in bad faith.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 59 minutes ago

AI overview immediately makes me think you're posting in bad faith.

I'm literally just agreeing with the guy saying this is a bad use of statistics. Glad to see the reddit hive mind is alive and well.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think you’re responding to the wrong dude. I’m not OP.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

You replied to me and are defending OP so don't complain that i'm throwing salt at your math skills.

The fact that your NOT op makes it worse. Means I nailed it with the hive mind accusation.

You defs dont' understand the part about getting the right answer with the wrong math. I'm not arguing that police aren't deadlier than shooters. I'm pointing out the math he used to back it up is bullshit.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ehhh, I’m gonna trust the guy who quoted actual sources and not the guy who literally pasted “AI Overview” into his comment lmao

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 hour ago

So if I hadn't been honest you would have trusted me? Very telling hive mind mfer

[–] nsrxn@mstdn.social 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

you're using statistics to absolve an evil institution.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Absolve? lmfao hive mind idiots. No wonder Americans let this happen to themselves.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Violence is always a solution. It's just usually the wrong one being applied by incompetent jackasses against the wrong people.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I like how here it say disarm instead of defund or disband. But then disarming the police in US mean police is basically a sitting duck when shit happened because there's like bazillion of people owning gun. I wonder how's that gonna work.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 1 points 4 minutes ago

By also disarming the people

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

like it works in nations where the cops don't go around with tools to murder people.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

Those nations have heavy regulated gun laws though.

[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I dont think they're saying the concept doesn't work, I think they just mean that its to easy for a bad actor to legally get a gun in the US

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago) (1 children)

In this case, the police are the bad actors getting guns.

maybe without them, they wouldn't feel so comfortable escalating every situation.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

Correct answer. Even in countries where by and large police aren't armed, they still have a section of specific very heavily trained police who are armed who can be called in if shit goes down. For sitting on an overpass radaring cars, or showing up 16 hours late to write an incident report for the burglary they failed to stop, or harassing some homeowner about the length of his lawn or the volume knob position on his stereo, or any of innumerable other things the police spend most of their day doing they don't need to be toting around guns. The majority of Americans don't, and somehow most of us manage not to get shot on a daily basis despite theoretically rubbing elbows with most of the same criminals that the cops do.