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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My countrymen voted for this piece of shit.

I'm so sorry to inflict this upon the world.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think I'm starting to realize something fucked up about us. What if he's who we really are deep down? What if this is just what America is and it's not just him?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago

I'm not an American exceptionalist. I don't think there's anything extraordinarily broken about Americans that isn't present elsewhere.

You can take that optimistically ("We don't have to continue this pattern, just change our circumstances") or pessimistically ("Oh, so that's why there's so much backsliding towards far-right parties worldwide")

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why the rest of the world is backing away from the US and trying to find partners that better share their values.

It isn't that Trump and his administration is so awful. It's that the US elected Bush Jr., then Obama, then Trump, then Biden, then Trump again. This isn't an exception anymore, this reflects who the US is. It isn't consistently pro-war and far right. But, enough of the electorate supports that kind of person that it really doesn't matter who the next president is. It's just a matter of time before there's another right wing president who rips up treaties and does illegal things.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can't even blame anyone for backing away

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

America is not a group of like-minded individuals, no country is really. So you (plural) are not one-thing deep down. But there are enough people in favour of Trump who each have very different reasons) that he can stay in power. That sure says something about some people from America but not something about all Americans.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

My fear was he is something of like a shadow self that even those of us who hate everything thing he stands for can't even kill. Like even though I hate all this there is some part of me that prefers to be a useless bystander while he runs rampant. I dunno, our democracy is straight up broke but what do we even do about it? Just keep trying to vote it right again. But I'm projecting my own weakness and complacency on other Americans. You and Pug are right. It's not everyone, it's just me

[–] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump is the sum of American will put together. There are plenty of people pulling in the other direction, but not enough to counter his runaway train of ingrained selfishness.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

He's the sum of a garbage political system, not its people. California has 40 million people and Wyoming has 550k, and yet they have the same number of senators.

Most people see the bloated orange huckster toddler for who he is, but imperfect systems of government are always fallible to bad actors.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

That's what I'm afraid of. The best of us aren't even good enough to offset the net harm he does. Or maybe the best of us just are a little bit like him too, in a way that isn't perceptible to us because of how we're raised.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

We all hope best for the people of Iran. If this turned out surprisingly well, I still couldn't give credit to the criminal US administration, as this is gambling with other people lives. I'd still be happy.

Unfortunately, it's highly unlikely this will turn out well.

[–] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 12 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they do manage to install some US friendly stooge but I also won't be surprised when said stooge gets executed on national television in 18 months.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago
[–] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dont know how to react if this person would be right...

And sadly I am willing to say, lets see what happens...

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago

At the end of the day, it legitimately doesn't matter whether it turns out 'well' or not, because pretty indisputably, it's going to turn out worse than if we had not done it.

International relations aren't some fucking game (angry in general, not at you) where it's as simple as win or lose, like these fuckwits are playing at. If these cretins somehow (and against their own authoritarian natures) installed a legitimately democratic and stable government over Iran when the dust all settles, that will not be an improvement over the Iranian people doing so themselves; and such a result is not possible unless the Iranian people are ready to do it.

The government would end up struggling with issues of perceived legitimacy, diplomatic prejudices from real or imagined obligations to Israel and the USA, and the enduring issue of the massive human and material costs of a foreign invasion, no matter how well-executed (and considering the opening salvo has killed some 85 children, I'm not fucking optimistic about the competency with which it will be executed).

More likely, these fuckwits are going to try, if they 'succeed', to install a repressive puppet government that acts in their interests instead of the interests of the current ruling class.