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That's the thing, no one actually voted for Trump to stop wars. They vote for him because he said he'd hurt the people they don't like, that's it. Anything else is either just an attack on the opponents like the whole Kamala war thing or just a thinly veiled distraction from their hatred.
There is a non-trivial part of the cult that is not taking this well. It's hard to see from across the fence and through the cloud of bots, but there is trouble in MAGA land.
Yep. For a small example, chuds are absolutely giddy about the end of pennies. If it happened while a Democrat was in office, they'd be bemoning every aspect of it.
US politics is mostly about being contrarian to whomever you feel is doing freedom wrong.
And if you didn't vote for Harris you voted for Trump.
I've seen tankies on Bluesky trying to convince themselves that the US would have attacked Iran under Harris, too. Anybody saying that that's just a hypothetical gets told to "prove it".
This exchange was hilarious:
Eh, I wouldn't say we'd be guaranteed to be in this war anyway, but I wouldn't say she'd have definitely kept us out.
Very few things are ever guaranteed, which is why it's extremely silly for people to think that Harris would definitely have dragged the US into a war with Iran
Is this Trump's "Domain Expansion"?
No, that'd be him shitting his pants.
Reddit is suppressing and botting the fuck out of this right now. So many posts cheering and saying it's all the Iranian government's fault.
Make posts linking the US admitting that we made the Iranian currency value drop to nothing on purpose just to cause protests and riots and it gets down voted into oblivion. Seriously dead internet theory. It's like the bots and shills now actually outnumber humans who have bothered to read anything about anything. o_O
Don’t forget the idiots that didn’t vote because Gaza and now it’s 10x worse
At least the Palestinians are now all saved. They have been saved, right? No? Well at least some people could feel morally superior by not voting for Kamala.
Can you imagine how much better the world would be if:
That's all it would take. They wouldn't have to commit to doing better research next time. They wouldn't have to try to defend some of what Trump did, or decide which GOP candidates are actually being honest. Just say "Wow, I fucked up. I shouldn't vote."
It's like an alcoholic who wakes up in a puddle of their own puke. They can try to be more careful in their drinking. Or, they can decide "I can't be trusted around alcohol". But, it's not like voting in a controlled way is fun, the way moderate drinking could be fun. Voting is a chore. It should be a relief to be able to say "I don't have to pay attention anymore, I'm a gullible idiot, let other people take the reins".
That would take humility something most Trump voters don't have in my experience. Seriously the fucken ego on some of them makes my literal ego filled Southern Aristocrat ancestors seem like fucken monks, mind you that's just the boomers and gen X ones in my experience with younger ones just being stupid or mentally ill in my experience.
It's been a year and I still can't believe how stupid Americans are. He was president before. You knew he shouldn't be. Yet You elected him again.
But?? The FIFA peace price? How could he tarnish something so coveted?!
Pretty sure that USA hasn't gone to war in like 80 years. 1942.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States#Declarations_of_war
I'm being sarcastic but this is literally true according to state double-speak. We've had almost a century of peace!!!
Let's see, MAGA promises:
America First - too many good countries to steal, so...Nah.
Epstein Files - they were supposed to be filled with Dems, but it turns out that MAGAs are much more enthusiastic pedophiles, so Nah.
Lower Prices on Day 1: Were beyond Day 400, and prices are still rising, so Nah.
Deporting criminal immigrants: Turns out there aren't that many, but there are plenty of evil innocent immigrants, school kids, veterans, old people, sick people, etc., so Nah.
Lower Crime: If you don't count the Paramilitary Death Squads breaking out into spontaneous firing squads against innocent American citizens, so Nah.
So why are MAGAs still on board? Is it the Treason? The virtuosic incompetence?
I'll bet it's the Pedophilia. You can always count on MAGA to defend Pedophilia, and this is important to MAGAs, because...
ALL MAGAs are Pedophiles.
AMAP.
Dig it.
I was with you, up until the end. I don't believe maga voters are pedophiles. I believe they treat politics like sports. They vote for their team.
The Cleveland Browns signed DeShawn Watson. A guy who was BEFORE SIGNING WITH THR BROWNS already accused by 22 different women of sexual assault.
They signed him to the most expensive contract the NFL had ever seen.
It did not affect business one bit. Fans still came to Browns Stadium to cheer on a rapist. It wasn't until he became injury prone, and missed 90% of his games while still being paid that fans turned against Watson. Not because he was a rapist, but because he wasn't winning games.
Thats how Maga is viewing trump. If he wins, he's their guy. But if he'd have lost the 2024 election, I think his political career would have been done.
Not because he's a pedophile, but because he wasn't winning. But since he DID win, they'll believe he's not a pedophile. Because if he was a pedophile, that would mean they support a pedophile. But that can't be true. So obviously he must not be.
This is how they think.
It's so frustrating dealing with Browns fans in Cleveland. Today they'll all say fuck DeShawn Watson. And today they'll say worst trade in history. But I remember saying that 3 years ago when the trade was fresh. I remember saying I would ban all rapists and drunk drivers from all sports. Regardless of how important they are to a sport. I'd have banned Micheal Jordan in the 90s had he been a rapist. (Just for the record, I'm not saying he is. I've never heard that. I'm just saying he's the most important sports figure of my lifetime, and I would ban him in his prime had he been a rapist).
So when day 1 that trade happened, I said this is terrible. I was told to shut up because now Cleveland can win the superbowl. Today they all agree with me it was a bad trade. But for entirely different reasons.
This is what I see from maga today. They convince themselves he's not a pedophile, because otherwise that means they voted for a pedophile.
But it doesn't mean maga ARE pedophiles.
Unless you meant just the politicians, in which case......yeah, most of them might be.
AMAP.
Oh no, no, nobody ever believed he was anti-war. If they claim they did, they're lying.
You could believe he was gonna clean the swamp, if you were extremely foolish. You could believe he was gonna release the Epstein Files, if you were drunk enough and melted your brain doing whippets.
But you don't get to pretend, ever, that the man who thinks foreigners are garbage would ever, for a second, think twice about shooting them.
I think you're underestimating the potential for stupidity of the American people. When I went to vote for Harris in '24, there were people with signs calling him the president of peace. There were also people with signs showing the price of gas during the COVID shutdowns, which is at a similar level.
The last peaceful president and admin who withheld "US Aid" (missiles) from the Middle East was... Carter? Was it Carter? Has it been that long?
and not a few strikes, either. THOUSANDS.