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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's some good schadenfreude right there.

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 2 points 12 hours ago
[–] Ranulph@thelemmy.club 5 points 18 hours ago

Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again? (I'll show myself out)

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I’m sure LLMs can be useful for automation as long as you know what you’re doing, have tested your prompts rigorously on the specific version of the model and agent you’re using, and have put proper guardrails in place.

Just blindly assuming a LLM is intelligent and will do the right thing is stupid, though. LLMs take text you give them as input and then output some predicted text based on statistical patterns. That’s all. If you feed it a pile of text with a chat history that says it deleted all your shit, the text it might predict that statistically should come next is an apology. You can feed that same pile of text to 10 different LLMs, and they might all “apologize” to you.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Because of the way LLMs work, they are inherently bad for automation. The most important part of automation is deterministic results; LLMs cannot work if they have deterministic results. It is simply not a possible application of the technology.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or just learn any of the real automation tools that have been programmed by real programmers over the last half century?

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Recently someone lamented that just asking for an alarm to be set cost them tons of money and didn't even work right..

It was foolish enough to let LLM go to town on automation, but for open ended scenarios, I at least got the logic even if it was stupidly optimistic.

But implementing an alarm? These people don't even have rationality to their enthusiasm...

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 3 points 22 hours ago

If I remember right, that post wasn't designed to highlight a practical use-case, but rather to set up a simple task as a "how could I apply this?" type of experimentation. The guy got roasted for it, but I think it's a very reasonable thing to try because it's a simple task you can see the direct result of in practice.

The cost problem was highlighted as well, because if such a simple task is a problem, it can't possibly scale well.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

but it's soooooooo cooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah at work I had a realization recently that power automate and similar systems with AI steps are going to be really powerful. Since you have a bunch of deterministic steps you can just have the AI do the one text manipulation bit where you don't need deterministic output (handy for non-deterministic inputs for example)

[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Now do it to their Bitcoin wallets

[–] ReallyCoolDude@lemmy.ml 78 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How could any person with some programing literacy event thinking about installing openclaw. A malware ridden by critical bugs

[–] Jrockwar@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't think there's anything wrong with running Openclaw. What is way too brave for my taste is giving it access to accounts with your personal data, or the filesystem in your computer. That's a disaster waiting to happen.

I run it in an isolated server, and it doesn't have access to my data - if it goes tits up, it deletes unimportant stuff only. If anyone gets access to the credentials in it, it's a bunch of budget-limited API keys, so they can spend all of $4 on openrouter. Maybe the riskiest bit is its Google account. I went with the approach of giving it its own Google account, so that it can create docs and calendar events and then add me, rather than getting access to my Google account. But then again... That account has no payment info, nothing that I would be mega worried if it got leaked...

Sure, it might limit the usefulness a bit, but I think installing something like this is only acceptable if you sandbox it and don't let it access valuable information. Going full mad scientist on something as "alpha" as this, letting it run wild with your info is nuts.

[–] flux@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I went with the approach of giving it its own Google account, so that it can create docs and calendar events and then add me, rather than getting access to my Google account.

I wonder though: if Google can link this account to you as its actual owner, I wonder if there's a risk if the bot does something against the ToS?

I hope you have backups of your Google account..

[–] XLE@piefed.social 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She's the head AI Safety Expert for Meta. The field might as well be labeled AI Misunderstander.

[–] ReallyCoolDude@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

I work with some data sciencetists and ml engineers on web projects. They might be good at etls, fine tuning etx, but dont let them touch anything with a public.layer or infra constraints.

[–] blargbluuk@piefed.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

you answered your own question here

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Seems like a good excuse for destroying evidence.

[–] fcuks@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

exactly what I thought

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

AI is great for plausible deniability.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago

AI alignment fully achieved.

[–] chuck@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't worry ask the pentagon's grok to taskthe nsa's chat got to recreate your inbox from their profile of you and meta data of your correspondence 🤣

[–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Last I knew, they switched from Anthropic to chatGPT

Either way, what Im hearing is you can get private access, with some creativity, to anything the US intelligence apparatus knows. For free.

[–] sicjoke@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Fucking LOL!

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Wasn't this many days ago already, or did it happen again? I remember reading this like 3 or 4 days ago as well.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

This was 3 or 4 days ago.

I thought of it after Anthropic virtuously announced they would not create autonomous murder devices for the US government (but basically everything else was on the table). Because I'm pretty sure the US military could have just used an Anthropic OpenClaw to bomb civilians as easily as this Facebook AI Safety expert used OpenClaw to destroy her emails.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have no interest in using it, but at least it’s MIT licensed, which puts it ahead of Microslop’s rubbish if nothing else.

[–] elvith@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but if I understand that correctly, that's just for the app itself the LLM is very likely still a proprietary one (ChatGPT, Grok,....)

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 5 points 1 day ago

Looks like it supports locally hosted models as well, such as via Ollama: https://docs.openclaw.ai/providers.