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I'm finally trying to do something about not being involved in any sort of real world organizing, so I've been looking for local orgs to get involved with. The unfortunate thing is that the only socialist organization in my area is DSA, and from the looks of it this chapter seems to be not so radical. They work closely with a lot of local political groups that back the democratic party and have a pretty heavy focus on electoral politics. I know that theres quite a wide variety of socialist / communist tendencies within DSA but the chapter here is tame in comparison to the more ideologically revolutionary caucuses in the US.

What have your experiences been like with DSA if you've ever been a member or if you just worked alongside them? I want to give it a shot at least and get a feel for what its like to be involved but I'm concerned that theres going to be a lot of reformists and social democrat types. Though, maybe I'm being too judgmental before even getting started. I just wanted to gather other peoples' thoughts and opinions first before I really dedicated any time or money to the org.

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[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends heavily on chapter from what I've seen. If they're the only organizing in your area you'll likely find a chapter undeveloped enough where if you aren't irritating you could easily influence it's political character. Watch out for SMC and Groundworks caucuses, those are the ideologically committed right-of-Menshiviks. NYCDSA is ran by their coalition for example. If your local chapter is ran by them, you're probably cooked. (Follow-up reading on this: https://cosmonautmag.com/2026/01/dredging-the-southern-earth-4-years-later)

Expect chauvinism and opportunism, comes with the territory, catch people on the way in and encourage political development towards your ideas, if you're luckily you'll find some somewhat ideological allies(Maoists/MLs -> Neo-Kauts/Trots from closest to furthest. Libertarian Socialists are somewhere in there depending on how much you like anarchism).

Godspeed and good luck.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago

I agree with this. The only real socialist org of significant size in my area is DSA. I've met more MLs from organizing within the DSA than from outside. I think it's worth working with them even part-time or short-term for the purpose of building connections. In places with no other orgs, DSA will be the place to find like-minded comrades or will be a good start to leading you to them.

Even if you don't fit the org, the networking is worth it.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm finally trying to do something about not being involved in any sort of real world organizing,

Yes it's worth it. Go to some meetings. Talk to people. Ask them questions and bring up your concerns. Maybe you'll be disappointed. Maybe you'll wind up somewhere else. But these are all necessary steps.

There are usually cool people in the locals. Smaller ones frequently partner with PSL, SRA, and FNB for direct actions. Even if the national org and the bigger chapters can be shit, the locals can absolutely be cool places.

[–] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apply to join PSL. Even if there isn't a branch, you can build one if you're willing to put in the effort.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Seconded. I haven't organized before but joined a small branch a few months ago with so much potential to grow. It's daunting but super motivating

It wouldn't hurt to check out your local DSA branch some more to determine whether there's any potential for it to be more radical. If you ever join PSL you'll want good relations with the DSA anyway, all the orgs have to work together

[–] bdazman@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Meet other marxists by any means neccesary. Mine is full of maoists and folks whose red line is democratic party entryism. Give them a shot, you might be pleasantly surprised. Get into a reading group. Its better than nothing (unless they're doing democratic party opportunism then it might be worse than finding something else but at least find some other marxists to talk to).

[–] happybaby@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago
[–] Dimmer06@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

I left a few years ago. I'm considering rejoining. Not really because of anything they did but because I think it'll be useful to what I'm trying to do in labor organizing and maybe I can rejuvenate the chapter's political education program.

Red Star, a faction of the organization, has good politics if you're looking for comrades. Not sure how friendly they are but check them out.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

DSA isn’t a political party so I’m not really sure what “joining” even means but probably worth checking out.

[–] Sulvy@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Joining means becoming a member of a chapter and participating in the work they do? Community service, mutual aid, tabling, protests etc in my experience

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 1 points 12 hours ago

Deferring to your expertise as I’ve never lived near a chapter but it’s still not a party. They don’t have a party line or any standards for members at all.

[–] free_casc@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Yes, if anything you'll be closer to finding a group that may be a better fit for you, and there's nothing wrong with being a good influence on people who are more liberal than you.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

My chapter is fairly big and in a fairly radical part of the US. So there's always other working groups wanting to do something other than electoralism even if thats still the most public. We're also big enough to have a standing reading group and mobilizer group which will sometimes host different social events for new members.

If your chapter is modestly big enough there should be some way for you to find out more. DSA is going through a growth spurt nationally so your local chapter should have surplus new members. If you're intrepid enough you could meet some and make a new working group.

National caucuses are basically not mentioned/invisible at the local level. Maybe in bigger cities that's different. But afaik most DSAers aren't in a caucus or even know all the different caucuses. Internal political divisions do tend to manifest by working group affiliation. Usually Labor and Electoral vs Everyone Else.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It really depends on the chapter and if you truly don't have any other options available. my local chapter has a lot of zionists, white people who don't think Indigenous people deserve land back, and other types of reactionaries posing as socialists. if I didn't have other organizing options, I still wouldn't work with them

[–] Sulvy@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ…really does depend on the chapter huh? Mine is rather small but nothing like this.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

NGL, from what I've seen you're essentially dealing with an entirely different org depending on what chapter you get.

One nearest to me has pro-zionism as grounds for chapter expulsion.

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

If you find a good causus to join in your area sure