A community for the much-anticipated block game!
Hytale is a sandbox/RPG game inspired by Minecraft, but with a bigger focus on creativity, combat, and adventure. It also features powerful modding and world-creation tools, making it much easier to build upon compared to similar games.
Rules: The same as any other community. Keep all content related to Hytale. Don't be rude, hostile, or annoying. Use common sense. Thanks!
Not directly related to Hytale but I thought this was a pretty good read. We already know most of this but it's nice to hear the perspective of somebody that is actually in those investor meetings and hearing them talk about AI and replacing creators. Very disgusting stuff.
Btw it’s illegal to lie to investors
But not devs.
Yep, shareholders technically own the company so the board running it has to tell them the real truth
Hytale is excellent. Little light on content right now as it's EA, but man is it polished.
It’s EA
I thought of the wrong EA abbreviation. Don’t jump scare me like that!
It is nice to see Hytale is focused on the gamer's experience and making the best game they can rather than trying to maximize profits.
For anyone in the pure "fuck AI" crowd, I link this, just so they can be informed that Simon isn't pure anti-AI.
Personally I still enjoy and support Hytale.
But I know AI is a hot topic, so there's for anyone who wants to know.
Yeah there are lots of people who are in the “we shouldn’t replace jobs with this but it exists so who cares if I do a meme about it”
If I knew there was an image gen that was trained ethically and was run locally? I’d be less inclined to complain about memes, but you are basically doing micro transactions for the Nazis when you do this.
I dunno I guess if you haven’t thought about it deeply then you wouldn’t come to this conclusion, but the “hey stop being a crybaby online I know you’re wrong because you are annoying” kinda has a troubling tech bro “stop being a woke” attitude. Simon should probably exercise a little restraint and have a deep think about what’s really happening here.
I'm in the "If a person didn't make it, I don't want to see it; unless it's actually innovative in some way and not just random slop" camp.
The first AI generated images were pretty cool, the newer ones were impressive tech (though based on the work of artists who didn't opt-into the scraping, so stolen), now it's just annoying.
I may still support Hytale (looking to buy it in the following weeks, wondering if I'm actually gonna end up playing it regularly) but I know I'm not interacting Simon's social media accounts if he's gonna post slop (I don't even have BlueSky so I don't really care that much).
People who can't find nuance in this topic aren't worth humoring. Instantly describing a complex image into reality is cool, actually. Calling it theft is deeply silly when the preferred alternative is an unaltered screenshot of some popular cartoon. It's dead easy to hate on these specific companies and capitalism in general without kneejerk bad-faith harassment.
It's cool, yes.
But there are ethical and environmental issues with it, and his response to people bringing that up is a pretty bad look. It's one thing to have discussions and disagreements about using genAI for memes, it's another to insult people saying it's bad.
And some people actually do consciously vote with their dollar, so it's nice to share information about where the dollar goes.
His response of correctly spotting unanswerable antagonism?
What you're doing in the comment above is participating in a harassment campaign. Presumably you have no such grand intent, but no pebble feels responsible for the avalanche. It's a purity test, where deleting the offending image is seen as equally incriminating, pointing out the touchy response is equally offensive... and you, a self-proclaimed supporter, are linking to a zero-tolerance scold account that only tracks this sort of receipt. There's not much daylight between @duckaislop and "anti-woke" Steam game lists. Different motives... identical behavior.
The crystal clear message is wagging a finger at anyone thinking of buying this game that doesn't even use this tech. Your professed endorsement does not match this behavior.
There's a third path, where creatives can use tools for "real-time dreaming" and also the companies who try to replace workers with AI fail because they put out terrible products untouched by human creativity.
It looks like Simon is, incorrectly in my opinion, accepting the premise that's being sold to the investors. i.e. That using AI will allow the replacement of human labor. Saying that it is obvious that this will happen in 2 years or 10 years.
In order to believe that, you would have to believe that AI is capable of replacing humans. I don't think that is going to be the case.
It is simply not supported by evidence or any existing technology. At best, AI is a semi-useful tool for some tasks in programming or art. There is no use-case in either of these fields that AI performs better than or even equal to that of trained humans.
It's far more likely that we're in a world where a bunch of publicly traded game studios are about to throw themselves off a cliff chasing AI while getting rid of their talent. Studios that use actual humans (using whatever tools they choose to use) will always have an advantage over anything built primarily on AI output..