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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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ALLIES

!abolition@slrpnk.net

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r/ACAB

r/BadCopNoDonut/

Randy Balko

The Civil Rights Lawyer

The Honest Courtesan

Identity Project

MirandaWarning.org

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

Black Lives Matter

Campaign Zero

Innocence Project

The Marshall Project

Movement Law Lab

NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration

 

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How effective would snow/leaf blowers be in this situation? Asking for Portland...

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago

According to the original post, an area of 5 blocks was saturated in chemical irritants. I don't think a leaf blower is going to do much.

[–] HotChickenFeet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My question is - would a fine mister/sprinkler be capable ofntracking airborne particulates and bringing them down to the road?

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not sure about tear gas but pepper spray is oil based (capsicum oil), so water probably wouldn't work. iirc flooding the tear gas canisters stops the reaction/release of more gas. I think people were caring around cones, putting them on top of canisters then drenching the contents.

On second thought, maybe some baby shampoo in the water sprayer/mister would be enough to grab onto the chili oils

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Nice of them to go back to Portland where a large number of activists probably still have the gear they bought in 2020.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

So they just gassed themselves though right? Like what's it like in that building now?

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to nitpick, but wouldn't the ice building technically be under siege?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Under siege, by the people inside that come out and deploy chemical munitions against people exercising their 1st Amendment rights?

How do you define siege?

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Siege is where you attack an established position, a stronghold, by surrounding it and cutting off supplies hoping to force a surrender.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are 2 groups.

One holding signs and wearing inflatibles.

The other using chemical munitions, "less than lethals" in lethal ways, and other types of excessive force.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Right but that implies nothing about a siege.