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I didn't even know there was a Patreon app. I signed up through the website. On a computer. Old school.
So, all business is becoming a protection racket?
Gotta love walled gardens! /s
Yes! Exploit the morons as much as they're willing to be exploited!
None of them have the brains/balls to fight back.
To follow this logic: if you use an e-banking app, Apple will soon claim to be entitled to 30% of all transactions. Same for paypal, ebay, you name it
There are a few EU alternatives. Why are those not being considered.
LiberaPay is one.
Why are those not being considered.
Because people are stupid 🤷.
I've never heard of them. They look kinda neat, you're still paying the processor fees, but they can save you a few percent.
Gotta recoup all those fascist donations
To make this clear: Patreon is a platform mainly used by creators, artists, musicians to get a reliable income directly from their fans. Apple is trying to steal 30% of the income of our favorite artists.
Timmy Cook is just a bean counter. He's got nothing to innovate or build. That's Apple has been buying back shares non stop. Their lead designer jumped ship a while ago. It's only a matter of time.
kinda like how youtube takes massive cut of ad revenue, which is why they switch to patreon, brand deal and promotions. 30% is pretty steep for small content creators, that isnt peddling right wing grifting.
Choose another payment method. Choose another platform - web based? - where these fees don't apply. Hell, buy a throwaway droid phone to keep your money from apple's greedy hands.
We will need an alternative to Patreon that even people on Patreon can go to
No, you need an alternative to apps in the Apple app store, which already exist. Don't pay for anything through an app on an Apple device, they will rob the creator. Pay through the Patreon web site.
Direct payments with Monero seems like the best option.
Everything else takes a cut, which they do not deserve.
Liberapay, Kofi
What exactly does Apple think that they're brining to the equation in order to deserve that 30? Is it simply that they're hosting an app on their store, so therefore they're entitled to a cut?
So if I write a novel, and get it published, Microsoft can say "We deserve 30% because you used our product to produce your product?
I'm so fucking tired of corporations. It's well past guillotine-o-clock.
Why does Apple feel they deserve a 30% cut? In cases like this, Apple aren't providing any value at all.
- Apple aren't providing the content - the creator is.
- Apple aren't providing a platform for the content - Patreon is.
- Apple aren't providing a platform for discovery - people aren't finding Patreon creators solely via Apple products.
Sure, Apple are providing a payments platform, but why do they deserve 10x what Stripe charges?
Why does Apple feel they deserve a 30% cut?
Because they can. Time and time again, useful idiots have proven their dipshittery by sucking off the people taking them for a ride.
A main tenant of business decisions is to fuck over your customers as hard as they're willing to be fucked. Since nobody has any standards these days, corporations make a killing.
Hasn't this type of thing already been litigated?
Yes it has, but now, all of our consumer protections have been obliterated
If I was on Patreon I'd tell them to pull the app. Fuck em they have a website.
Just crank all iOS user payments up by 30%, explain why, and let nature sort itself out.
I fucking hate mega corps. It's never fucking enough... Ever... Apple has more money than some countries yet these assholes want ever more....
Tax all these assholes into oblivion!