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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Randy Balko

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INFO

A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions

Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

Black Lives Matter

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Innocence Project

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NAACP

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Say Their Names

Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration

 

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[–] leavemealone@sh.itjust.works 85 points 3 days ago (4 children)

9 people that we know of I am really afraid for the people in their concentration camps.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The world didn't know the extent of the atrocities during the holocaust until after the nazis were defeated and the Allies found the concentration camps

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And nobody's coming to liberate ours.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

O Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao Ciao Ciao

[–] M137@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not yet. I feel the same was thought, said and felt about Germany back then too. But I can see it happening if it gets bad enough (like end of WW3 with most of the world against the US).

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That would be a small silver lining, if the US government being so horrible brought the rest of the world together.

[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh it's bringing the world together alright, just not the way anyone was expecting.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

They all hate us, yes, but time will tell if it amounts to them meaningfully working together. Governments have proven to be reluctant to stop kowtowing to the US.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Friendly reminder 1800 People went to Alligator Alcatraz and just "disappeared".

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's a really good point. We don't have all their actions on camera. We can't account for everyone.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Not to mention those who've died after deportation. RIP to any potential innocents sent to cecot.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Oh, it's absolutely much more than 9.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 days ago

Verb should be murdered not killed.

[–] bahcodad@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Did anyone else think this was an ice nine kills reference?

[–] avg@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It seems to me that those in power only cared when the white guy died.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s a matter of what gets caught on video

[–] manualoverride@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We all know and still remember the name George Floyd too! Shame these threads keep getting highjacked by people trying to stir racial division.

[–] avg@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not referring to the response of people like you and I, I do believe that the majority of white folks aren't racist, I'm referring to those in position of power, and even then I'm not even saying they are outright racist, but that they are certainly biased even if they are not aware of it.

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[–] MrsDoyle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not the first time white Americans were shot for expressing opinions. This was 1970:

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

Never just include a picture without context. There are many people who won't know what this is, and you description doesn't really give them much to search for.

This is the Kent State shootings, where four student protesters were killed (and nine more wounded) by the national guard while protesting Vietnam war expansion.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

Those in power didn't care even then, and they still don't. The only reason Bovino got fired was the optics. Not cause they killed a guy; because they got caught.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Why do people like you keep pretending whether or not it was on video doesn't factor into it?

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[–] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Come on, that's just murders widely known. I will safely bet half the life on the planet that this list is oh very not exhaustive

[–] ashughes@feddit.uk 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My understanding is that Alex Pretti was murdered by CBP. Not to let ICE off the hook here, just to say let’s not let other Gestapo agencies get away with murder either.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Just call em all the Trump Troops, or TT for short. It doesn't really matter what agency someone belongs to, they're all the Temu version of Team Rocket grunts. It's the sequel to SS if you will

[–] Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or black to do this, although you’re just called a Panther

Technically that's a leopard or jaguar. Panthers are the black variant of either of those species.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

why did I know it was the Rooftop Koreans before even clicking it. probably because I still remember the RK riots.

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