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[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I talked to a democrat voter recently about factory work, they where like 'Oh I dont think anyone should do factory work, its so inhumane!' to which im just like, well i've worked in a factory before, it was pretty good - just do the same shit all day and clock out, dont really think about work afterwards and the jobs easy enough - only issue was pay and working hours.

I dont know, I think westerners are in for a big shock when they realize the work thats 'beneath' them will be required for most people when the ability to have a nothing/bullshit job collapses with American hegemony, which is why we need to make this work pay well.

I would have happyily worked in a factory my entire life if the hours where reasonable and it afforded me a family and a house.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 days ago

The “Fully Automated Luxury Communism” dream, embraced more by pundits with cushy lives than working people, also reveals a dark truth: western “socialists” have some awareness that a more equal world will mean losing first-world privileges. They cannot conceive of things getting better steadily and slowly, with hard work. And so they are forced to denigrate the Chinese road of self-sacrifice in favour of leisure-driven utopianism. The reality is that the victory of the working class over the capitalist class will usher in an era of hard but rewarding work, as opposed to hard work without reward.

[–] MasterDeeLuke@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it can heavily depend which exact place you work at, I worked at a place assembling cardboard products and it was extremely chill and respectful, would still be doing it if I wasn't forced to quit due to moving. Meanwhile, I've also worked shortly in a plastic factory where I felt like I was inside a Nazi labor camp. Rude micromanagement, machines set to inhuman speeds, no phones or anything allowed, no going to your car at lunch, carcinogenic fumes and particles everywhere, ruthless firing of sick employees, shifts that can exceed 14 hours if there is a meeting, using and hiring active prisoners with crimes like assault and treating everyone at that level, people frequently losing fingers due to equipment failures, etc.

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah totally. Lets not romanticize working on an assembly line as a human machine. It can be mentally understimulating and hard on the body. At the end of the day we should be for automation under socialism so that it can free us from this drudgery.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

'Oh I dont think anyone should do factory work, its so inhumane!'

Fucker never heard the word "materialism"

[–] 6kb_@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i want to do factory wwork…. i wan tto do repetitive task…… i want to not have to write emails …. i want… i want wonderufl factory job under socialism, with workers’ protections…

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I've been doing factory work for going on 8 years now in different factories and positions, I like it a lot! Especially when I get to work in a position where I don't need to talk to anyone and can just do my thing for 8 hours. My ADHD likes it when my whole body is engaged in a task and I can still daydream at the same time. If only it wasn't so fucking hot during the summer, it'd be perfect.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago

geordi-no Fully automated luxury communism

geordi-yes Fully air-conditioned factory communism

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago

honestly, i prefer factory work to doing IT shit anyday. I just wish it paid as much.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's the issue, for me. Mind-numbingly boring. Plus concrete slab standing is whole body punishment, especially combined with looking down all day. Ford gave USians the assembly line, before workers were connected to the whole production process.The best experience I had in factories was repair, because then I had to go various places in the factory so I could not only see how individual components fit together but also understand why. Next was QA. BTW sewing or cutting various materials all day is also horrible for the body.

Maybe people could be cross trained and offered the opportunity to work position A for a month, position B another month, position C the next and so on.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even stuff like a 3-4 day work week, unionized mandatory lunch breaks, pay progression tied to skill and such would make factory jobs fine - like imagine you're only going in 4 days a week and working 2-3 hours at a time with breaks and you're back home before 4pm as well as making enough money to raise a family by yourself.

Would be absolutely fine.

The issue is that the pays shit because its seen as a desperation job.

Also places that have mass industry like this tend to have a higher amount of people who own a house, so the need to work insane hours just isnt there - if you owned a house you could easily work less than full time (2-3 days a week) just to pay for your living costs and savings.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At that point, why not just automate everything that can be, and let people persue more fulfilling work, for lux life? Money is really an arbitrary thing, survival isn't dependent on it other than bad actors hoarding it and the power it affords. Beyond that, let people paint, cook, create clothing, transportation, pottery, tea rituals, whatever to fulfill higher level needs?

Failing that, sure.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Im all for full automation within a communist ideological framework that gives the fruit of this to the workers rather than putting them on the breadline.

For what we have right now though, if it needs done it should be rewarding and it shouldnt be seen as a 'lesser' job that should only be done by the less desirable sects of society as it is at the moment.

Without factories we dont have any goods, its the backbone of industry and should be seen as a high status job, as all jobs should.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't see it as lesser. I just see it as I described. Yes I could do it for a couple or three hours daily, but if it's paying my necessary expenses at that level, it means it's already unnecessary, unless I'm missing something.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh yes no mistake here I get you don't believe that, I was more referencing the person I was discussing in my OP - the attitude described is downstream of the class system of course.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Ah my mistake, thanks for clarification.

[–] Perplexed@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I knew I recognized this pic from somewhere. I used google lens and found it's from some pretentious smug lib artist. It's a photo of workers inside a manufacturing plant in China. And there's no evidence whatsoever that the workers were maltreated.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Thanks for looking into it. I had a feeling something was off, with it seeming to use a picture of China to represent "capitalism bad". Like... why not a picture of the US?

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago

The irony here being that I guarantee most of the production is going to America.

[–] Marat@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reminds me how Pax Romana, Pax Britanica, and now of course Pax Americana are all peace in terms of outright state on state conflict, but all were/are engaging in massive amounts of social murder and class war under that "peace"

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As long as the violence rolls down the class pyramid it's "peaceful."

[–] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 days ago

That is how European empires maintain stability on their colonies. They divide the colonized people into different castes and allow a person to break the law without consequence if they are violently exploiting the lower class.