The mayor’s response was perfect. “ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis.”
That should be the response everywhere. Get the fuck out, you’re not welcome here.
this post was submitted on 07 Jan 2026
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I don't understand how this is considered a good response. They're just words, the terrorists are still there, and will murder again.
The correct response by the local or state governments would be to arrest them, and put them on trial, together with the federal government for having sent them (and the state government for allowing it in the case of the city).
Anything short of that is collaboration.
At this point, any politician who doesn't echo that exact sentiment is simply and truly complicit.
but is that all he does? just words, shouldnt he make them leave or arrest them like the LEO should. at that point hes only virtue signalling if he doe nothing about it.
Note that ICE presence in Minneapolis alone was/is about three times the entire Minneapolis police department. They are tremendously outnumbered. Which is just insane.
There are videos of police officers kicking her memorial later so cops side with ice too.
I couldn't make it out myself, but someone said those were DHS, not MPD
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He pulled the oldest trick in the book where you purposely escalate and put yourself in danger to justify lethal force. They could have all just kept their distance and nobody would have died.
Even in the video, its clear they weren't in danger, but you're right that was their intention.
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Yeah that ICE agent could easily step out of the way. Clear case of just wanted to murder her for trying to flee her own danger
He did step out of the way. He did not in any way stop the movement of the vehicle.
He wasn't in any danger. Cold-blooded murder. Anyone without a "badge" would be charged and sent to prison.
They will be sued, and lose. We (taxpayers who already pay taxes on toilet paper, et al) will be gracious enough to pay for the lawsuit ourselves, of course. No need for them or their pension to pay!
Also, they need a raise and more tanks, lots of tanks.
Remember he needs to be able to declare state of emergency so he can cancel elections.
He'll do it regardless. Half of what he's done was already illegal. More of what he'll do will be illegal. He doesn't care as long as nobody stops him.
Elections are a state managed process. If he "cancelled" the election, the Blue states could go ahead and have elections anyway. Then when a bunch of new blue congressional reps show up on DC, Trump has to claim they're illegitimate.
True, but he needs to declare a state of emergency for more than just that.
People - esp in US - need to read up on Hitler’s timeline.
Things will go very fast now. By the end of the year he will have abolished the democratic party as a domestic terrorist organisation.
The complete lack of any pushback on him breaking his own Epstein law and him kidnapping a foreign head of state will only fuel him up more.
I’m sure the cop will get away with it as the car was going in his direction. But he has SO much time to get out of the way. His first instinct is as to murder her.
The video shows he murdered her after stepping to the side and out of danger.
In fact, he put many more people's lives in danger by shooting.
Plain as day to you and me, but I don’t think this will be an open and shut case. He can make the argument he didn’t know what direction the car was going.
It's not an argument anyone who studies this video would buy.
Now we find out if he faces a jury of his peers.
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that's not a cop
is there an effective difference?
Nope
Thugs committing murder. Plain and simple. Such is the way for the law and order party.
At some point ICE is going to find out not only conservative white men are armed. And to be honest, whatever happens when they do, they’ll deserve it.
And mother of three.
I found a better angle of the shooter
Someone zoomed in on the other site: https://v.redd.it/km2ilti3g0cg1
I suggest downloading the video if you have a chance.
I've archived it in several locations already.
could you post it here? it has been removed from reddit
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It’s been removed by the mods already.
Which is why we are all here instead of there.
He's a violent frequent offender and he's still on the loose.
Jonathan Ross was dragged in a separate incident last year by a fleeing driver, according to court records.
https://www.startribune.com/ice-agent-who-fatally-shot-woman-in-minneapolis-is-identified/601560214
We give these officials too much power. This is clearly not enforcement!
Execution!
MURDER!
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