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[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 213 points 1 year ago

Easy to learn, hard to master, used for things it wasn’t created for.

Yep.

[-] dreadgoat@kbin.social 144 points 1 year ago

used for things it wasn’t created for

I think Python gets a point here, as it is very good at doing what it was created for.
Javascript even sucks at its stated goal.

[-] MaximumOverflow@lemmy.ca 94 points 1 year ago

You don't master Javascript, ever. You just become accustomed to the madness and stop caring, while sometimes doing things right.

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[-] thewebroach@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gotta say, ive done magical things in Javascript. NodeJS in particular can do damn near anything you set your mind to, and it doesnt give a damn if you use tab or 4 spaces.

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

For real, you really can do anything there, sometimes sacrificing efficiency, but still.

[-] MaxElFantasma@mujico.org 15 points 1 year ago

used for things it wasn’t created for.

so, like 90% of all programming languages

[-] Reborn2966@feddit.it 11 points 1 year ago

what was the original goal of python?

[-] Kerrigor@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago

sssssssssssssss

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

The goal for Python 3 was to be an all purpose language that the general population could use for their everyday computing tasks

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 year ago

Looking nice and upsetting people.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

That tracks

[-] illectrility@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Can confirm

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

But they're both programming languages...

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

That’s the joke

It’s implying js isn’t a programming language because web stuff isn’t real programming

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Web stuff is like 99% of all programming across the world, but okay.

[-] Bye@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Don’t get mad at me I’m just explaining it

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Not even close.

Most software out there is not consumer facing (there is a huge amount of custom stuff inside companies of all sizes) and even in the consumer space most software nowadays resides in ... smartphones.

Unless, of course, you count HTML (literally a Markup Language, so data formatting for display not code) as programming, in which case I'll leave you to enjoy your fantasy world.

[-] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You kinda forget that for each front end you see theres at least 4 times more backend to support it.

Also there are ton of non fron facing software.

Anyway its not really a competition. No one will be offended if you are wrong or not.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

The back-end functionality is still web functionality. Just because a user doesn't see all the server stuff doesn't mean it's not necessary to support a website. There are billions of websites across the world, and they almost all use some combination of back-end, front-end, database, and server code.

[-] ShadedCosmos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I think they meant javascript is to web dev as python is to software dev

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

it's a 4chan post, they don't "think" they are lawless animals, deprived from any sense of rationality

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I think it's a 4chan post and thus intentionally dumb.

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[-] mvirts@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago

Because JavaScript isn't a programming language, it's a compilation target 😅

[-] darcy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

the SAD reality!

[-] betternotbigger@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

This one triggers the entire spectrum of human emotion.

[-] garyyo@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Python is the connective tissue holding together library calls and some of our most advanced AI research is reliant on that. mildly concerning

Many banking systems sync with one another with txt files so... Yeah...

[-] Cratermaker@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago

If you think that's bad, don't think about how many important communications in the world happen completely verbally.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Pretty much all online service APIs (Google APIs, Facebook and so on) out there are text-based.

Granted, JSON formatted text, but still absolutelly human readable text.

The reason for that is because it's agnostic of the machine architectures (stuff like endianess) on both sides.

The really crazy stuff in banking are the old binary protocols (like EDF) from the time when bandwidth was way less than now (so, the early 90s and earlier).

[-] PeWu@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[-] grue@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

(Nobody tell him about the Cobol batch jobs that still run overnight.)

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You don't want to know how bad it is. A good friend is a consultant/business analyst for some salesforce-based loan software. Shit's terrifying.

[-] funkless@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

SFDC itself is written in Java but uses Javascript-esque APEX for whitelabel development?

[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I mostly meant the base level shit with text files and ridiculous APIs. Converting from one servicing system to another sounds kind of fun, though. I've always enjoyed doing horrible things to data. The most recent one I heard is there's a drag and drop visual coding tool that I'm told can't export to apex - just make calls to it.

Many banking systems sync with one another with txt files.

[-] PeteZ@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I had to do a project once with JavaScript. I did not enjoy the experience. In my opinion, a language where you need a reference to tell true from false is a bad language. So maybe JavaScript is the JavaScript of languages.

[-] Admin@tsck.org 16 points 1 year ago

Javascript is the javascript of JavaScript

[-] Skymt@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

It's only JavaScript if it is from the ECMA region in Europe. Otherwise it's just sparkling java...

[-] Liz@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not a programmer but I took a class in JavaScript. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by reference, I don't recall that feature of the language. Can you explain?

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[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago
[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 17 points 1 year ago

That's not even good rage bait.

Rage bait would be for example if you said "they could fix everything that's wrong with PHP but Python already exists".

[-] colourlessidea@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Since JavaScript is newer than Python, sure JS is the Python of programming languages /s

[-] _s10e@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago
[-] cia@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Wait let's hear him out

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