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[–] chris@l.roofo.cc 31 points 3 days ago

I have used the Chinese high speed rail and it's awesome. Better than flyingnand and so cheap. I am so jealous.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In the US we can thank the early railroad barrons owning congress.

[–] mech@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At the time of the early railroad barons, China still had an Emperor and was ravaged by Opium addiction.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ravaged by opium addiction because the Europeans realized they could make huge profits by getting people addicted. Fun fact, when China decided they would ban opium Britain sent the war ships and bombed the fuck out of them and ripped entire cities away from China, put them under British rule, and gave all Europeans total immunity from Chinese law within those cities so they could be full blown hives of scum and villainy with official clearance by the crown.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Those were one-r barons. Two rs are for trumps

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago

Also for trumps

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hyperloop has been dead for years now, actually it was from the start, just nobody was actually thinking or they have other interests, like grab as much money out of it as possible.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

Hyperloop is an idiotic concept. The investment needed to build a network of functional hundreds, or thousands of miles long vacuum tunnels, and the maintenance needed, makes it unviable.

Much easier and cheaper to build high speed rail.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's infrastructure under capitalism. Explains the entire USA basically.

[–] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 days ago

Same with power generation/grid. The EU is finally realising that if they want everyone to go electric they are massively fuckt in terms of clean electricity generation and power distribution. Meanwhile we had china's power grid as a case study in uni because it's way ahead of ours.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I am from the United States and while I think that we used to lead the world, I have to acknowledge that China has us with our pants around our ankles. American exceptionalism is dead.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

American exceptionalism got us into this mess

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Wanna sneak peak of the US in 50 years? Look at the present day UK.

[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In California's defense, we're getting there.

Slowly.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Many, many vested interests have tried to stop, deflect, delay, refund or shape the project and work into whatever will be least used and successful. The auto industry and oil industry, now also the ev companies including Tesla have a huge stake in not having Americans experience how dependable, useful, quick, clean and pleasant HSR is.

Once you try it you can't go back to short and mid-range car and plane trips.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

USA isn't even talking a big game. It's just the usual racism, patriarchy, colonialism, imperialism, capitalism, etc.