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This might be the beginning of the end for the whole Mars plan…

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[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 weeks ago

Well that sucks. Quarterly shareholder value has to be one of the worst ways to distract a company like this.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Good article from Eric.

If AI is something of a bubble, ten years from now, SpaceX may be sitting on hundreds of billions of dollars worth of satellites in space for which there is limited use. Maybe shareholders would rather SpaceX make them multimillionaires than make humans multiplanetary.

Yeah, this seems like the biggest risk with this decision.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They saw grifty startups getting money and realized that they could grift WAY more money than them. I'm surprised that they haven't announced something like "advanced custom grok silicon on every Starlink".

If anyone can make it work, it's the company that has made, launched, and operated by far the most satellites of all time. I still don't see the point, though.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think they saw New Glenn land and are worried they're going to get leapfrogged. I bet starship is a long way from actual service. Hence trying to cash in on some bullshit hype train before the curtain gets pulled back.

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don't buy that. Based on payloads, New Glenn 7x2 is in the class with Falcon and Vulcan. That landing should make ULA panic about someone showing up to steal their #2 spot and NSSL and Amazon launches.

New Glenn 9x4 (in a few years?) will get closer to Starship payloads, but I still think the only direct competition between the two will be for the rare payloads that need a big fairing.

[–] cole 4 points 2 weeks ago

nah, New Glenn is neat but it is not competition for Starship. glad it exists though

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I bet starship is a long way from actual service. Hence trying to cash in on some bullshit hype train

It sounds as though their AI satellites are contingent on the Starlink V3 design, which in turn rely on Starship to launch them, as the sat bus is too large for Falcon 9.

Relevant Elon tweet: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1998872465087541752

Starlink V3 will be 20kW and launched at scale around Q4 next year. No problem to scale that to >100kW if the satellite mass is shifted towards solar arrays and radiators for AI compute, instead of giant phased array antennas for Internet connectivity.

As you mention, it would use the same laser comms system as Starlink to connect to Starlink.

An AI satellite is easier, not harder, than the Starlink V3 design, which is a marvel of engineering created by an epic team of humans. I am so proud of the @SpaceX team.

If they think Starship is a long way from actual service, pursuing AI satellites is a strange move, as it seems these satellites would be dependent on Starship to launch them.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

pursuing AI satellites is a strange move,

My theory is that it's total bullshit. Why put Ai in space? It solves the power problem with solar, but it makes the heat problem way worse. So why, exactly are Ai space satellites a good idea? What need does it solve, aside from using their infrastructure for something 'hip' and 'cool'? I think Elon is talking out his ass and setting bullshit timeliness to complete buzzword investment bait. 'Space ai' is solar roads.

Of course, I could be absolutely wrong and I'll have to wait till Q4 to see if we have space factories and data centers. Going to be an action packed year with all the starships making orbit and doing orbital refueling and going around the moon and all the other bullshit he's promised.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Is musk running low on Tesla shares to use as collateral for his Twatter loans?

[–] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Generally, a company going public is a surefire way to either begin or accelerate the enshittification of its products and services, worsen working condition for its non-C-suite employees and just make everything to do with it worse. But in this particular case, I don't think it will make any difference at all.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Noooo, SpaceX, mein liebchen!

[–] karashta@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I miss living in the country where this type of thing was done by the government instead of idiot capitalists

[–] cole 3 points 2 weeks ago

Going public? Or development of space.

Governments can still work on space projects but introducing the free market has been a roaring success even if you don't like it