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[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 82 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So... What about autistic people sounding like LLMs before LLMs were a thing?

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Autistic people were the original LLMs. I don't care how much data you shove into it, there is still no LLM on Earth that knows more about trains than an autistic guy who knows everything about trains.

The difference is the autistic person isn't completely sycophantic and might be completely disgusted that you don't know the first production date of the C40-8W.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Using a larger vocabulary doesn't make you sound like an llm, it's more about the tone.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well—that is certainly a meticulous observation! 🔍

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It bolsters my theory that LLMs are repacing brain usage by humans

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

The thing is, for most people that's an improvement.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I knew this was a clickbait when it's gizmodo, but oof

The mods in the Wired story explain how they detect AI content, and unfortunately their methods boil down to “It’s vibes.”

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hey man, if the vibes aren't right, it's probably AI. Uncanny Valley and shit, bruh. Seems legit.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 30 points 1 month ago

"Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a promotion."

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So perversely chatbots are increasing people's vocabulary because people read so few books anymore and most of their word usage comes from what they read online?

[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

What’s more than that, chatbots use those words because writers use those words. That’s journalist vocab. And bots were trained on articles and written speech. I think you’re right, people just weren’t reading anything.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's kinda how I took it. Be funny if language evolved back into flowery Victorian speech.

[–] oppy1984 11 points 1 month ago

Indeed good sir, that would be quite comical.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

It's not flowery though, just bland.

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[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I have all these odd pauses in my speech and just realized they're em dashes.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm one of those deranged few who actually used em dashes in my normal typing habits. Not super often the way LLMs are prone to, maybe once a month tops. Alt+0151 or Compose, dash, dash, dash.

Now a find myself reluctant to use what I felt was a useful bit of punctuation out of concern people might think what I'm typing was LLM generated. It sucks.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I always just used -- instead, because I'm too lazy to remember weird codes and I don't know what a compose key is, but the intent is the same.

Edit: oh and I forgot lemmy does weird stuff with em-dash too, what I originally wrote there was hyphen-hyphen

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I always liked the dramatic...

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...pause.

I've never used em-dashes to represent them. Am I doing it wrong?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

People have been speaking with punctuation since language was invented. If you only now realize that pause is an em-dash, that's on your schooling. :-p

[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Pauses are much better than filler words.

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[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If a development leads to the downfall of r/AmITheAsshole, I'm all for it.

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[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

Right, thats it. Switch it all off. Burn it down. Right now.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No it isn't, shut the fuck up

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 6 points 1 month ago

Oh—I'm sorry. Here's the correct answer.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have found myself saying this phrase to people recently:

"Summarize what you just said in a single sentence."

And so far, everybody has done it.

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[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

What logically follows is that I need to be as weird and eccentric as possible in order to counteract the memetic contagion of a lovecraftian averaging machine. I bet I could make a cult out of this!

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[–] dontsayaword@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago

I bet this is true but also that a lot of the "human" sources they reviewed were actually written by LLMs anyway, not humans. This is reddit we're taking about.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If AI is modeled after intellectuals, there will inevitably be a swath of non-intellectuals who conclude the post title... because the idea of intellectuals predating AI is unthinkable to them.

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[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 month ago

Depressing, but not surprising. Even before the AS hype, I had long noticed that many people I regularly talk to (including a member of my immediate family who has been a teacher for decades) make horrendous spelling and grammar mistakes that they wouldn't make if they picked up at least one book, at least once every few months. So: people were already forgetting how to write, spell, and even read coherently way before chatbots.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

"You know the saying, 'Human see, human do.'" - Julius, Planet of the Apes

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Hahaha, now even the source of new data is starting to be poisoned by LLMs...good luck trying to outproduce LLM slop to train LLMs...and ending up with goop real fast.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

If you read the actual article there's barely any evidence that any of what they are claiming is even remotely true. They talk about vague connections through certain words being used on YouTube that are, in their own words, inconclusive. And a bunch of anecdotal instances on reddit in which mods use "vibes" to detect AI slop comments and posts. And then finish with more anecdotes about some real world encounters that they think are written by AI.

I mean, no doubt that AI garbage is filtering into online discourse because let's face it, people are lazy assholes who want easy karma and updoots. But this is hardly evidence that actual conversational language is being altered by AI.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

AI is writing about itself.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

And I kid you not, AI likes to use "and I kid you not" a lot!

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