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I ask this because I think of the recent switch of Ubuntu to the Rust recode of the GNU core utils, which use an MIT license. There are many Rust recodes of GPL software that re-license it as a pushover MIT or Apache licenses. I worry these relicensing efforts this will significantly harm the FOSS ecosystem. Is this reason to start worrying or is it not that bad?

IMO, if the FOSS world makes something public, with extensive liberties, then the only thing that should be asked in return is that people preserve these liberties, like the GPL successfully enforces. These pushover licenses preserve nothing.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To quote Brian Lunduke, because the GPL is viral and functioning systems licensed under the GPL have been published, if a future Rust-based MIT version of Linux ever comes out, we can just "Fork it, then we'll have our own Linux."

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[–] ViktorShahter@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I like non-copyleft licenses for one reason. Imagine if ffmpeg devs were like:

so many security vulnerabilities, your free labor is bad

thanks for pointing that out, it's not longer free

Most devs (including me) want to have some control over what they made. Permissive licenses allow rugpulling project if someone is using it while making YOU do stuff. ffmpeg is a great example. You may not like it but that's how it is.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're taking an incredibly slanted position. There is a whole world of vibrant, viable, meaningful FOSS outside copyleft licenses. Even when one philosophically and politically prefers copyleft licenses, sometimes there are cases where the humanitarian or practical argument favours permissive licensing. But there are many who simply don't share your interpretation of the philosophy and politics.

[–] jmbreuer@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

Interesting, but ultimately a roundabout justification for why the author chose a non-FOSS license for their startup Slack-clone built on ATProto.

They talk about "pro-labor licensing" but what they mean is pro- their -labor, not pro- anyone else's -labor.

GPL is already the most pro-labor licensing since it respects the work of anyone who contributes in equal measure, and does not hold the "original" founding author in higher regard.

It's really quite something to rail so unequivocally against the "fascistic mega-corps" and "autocratic corpostates" in your licensing justification blog post and then build your commercial product on top of Bluesky .

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